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  1. #341
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    Oops. My bad. I derped on that one. (My Japanese isn't flawless.)

  2. #342
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    Killing Provenance Watcher or clearing the Voidwatch storyline (two CSs after clearing Provenance Watcher) unlocks a Rare Enemy+ vorseal, not sure what unlocks it but I killed Provenance Watcher and did the two cutscenes after that and got this new vorseal.

  3. #343
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    Arch-Omega gave a Rare Enemy+, but nothing from Arch-Ultima. I'm guessing it's either-or.
    Odin II gave Defense+.

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    That's a big change in their pattern, it's the first time they give a vorseal from end-game content.
    At this point there's very little we can exclude then.
    Thanks for the finding!

    Which would be easier to solo/lowmen between Arch-Omega and Arch-Utima?

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    Arch-Omega has been a pretty trivial solo for SMN since mid Adoulin. I didn't need anything from Arch-Ultima, so I didn't try him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Arch-Omega has been a pretty trivial solo for SMN since mid Adoulin. I didn't need anything from Arch-Ultima, so I didn't try him.
    If I remember correctly, and I probably don't. He only has single target draw in, so if pet has hate you can run away from citadel buster and he shouldn't be much of an issue after that.

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    Isn't Citadel Buster light-based? Or at least the Ultima one was. As such wouldn't a RUN tank with some trusts-support make the fight pretty trivial with current gear?

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    Probably, yeah. I know the pre-Omega/Ultima zones are pretty trivial as well.

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    Last I tried the Temenos pre-arch zone was still some mild challenge on PUP, I had to pay attention and play it safe etc. But last time I tried my ilevel was 113 on PUP and had no trusts and stuff.
    Wait... can you actually use trusts in Limbus now? Think you still can't use them in Limbus, Einherjar and Salvage?

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    I dunno. I haven't touched any of them since before Trusts were a thing.

    I easily self-duoed the Temenos and Omega pre-zones with DNC and dualboxed WHM. Then I soloed Arch-Omega pretty comfortably with SMN and never bothered doing anything with Arch-Ultima. I know I already have both kills, though, so that explains where my DEF vorseal came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    Isn't Citadel Buster light-based? Or at least the Ultima one was. As such wouldn't a RUN tank with some trusts-support make the fight pretty trivial with current gear?
    just as a headsup. i solod NE apollyon today more out of fun for completed RoEs. you cant use trusts in there, so i doubt you can on Atch Ultima either

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    apropos vorseals. the T3 Reisenjima unlock 3rd Tier of "Occsionally annuls dmg" "killer effect" and the "Dmg taken-". Its not on the Vorseal list. If a kind soul likes to update

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    An additional -2 doesn't sound much but it makes trusts even more beastly. Some of my tanks survive some pretty high needle counts now when fighting the Cactuar in Reisen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harukasakura View Post
    apropos vorseals. the T3 Reisenjima unlock 3rd Tier of "Occsionally annuls dmg" "killer effect" and the "Dmg taken-". Its not on the Vorseal list. If a kind soul likes to update
    You have to say which NM gives which vorseal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    Isn't Citadel Buster light-based? Or at least the Ultima one was. As such wouldn't a RUN tank with some trusts-support make the fight pretty trivial with current gear?
    Citadel Buster (high light damage) is easy to survive on RDM, RUN, and PLD. And although it does have draw-in, Citadel Siege (instant K.O.) can be avoided because you know when it is going to happen and you just run away at the right moment.

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    zalo before:

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    zalo now:

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    Accuracy/Evasion:
    1)Completion of San d'Oria Missions
    2)Attain title "Discerning Individual" by completing any combination of "A Discerning Eye" quests five times.
    3)Crom Dubh
    4)Kabandha

    Defense:
    1)Completion of Bastok Missions
    2)Completion of the Shadowreign Bastok Quest "Bonds of Mythril"
    3)Completion of the Mog Garden quest "Hypnotic Hospitality"
    4)Golden Kist

    Attack/Ranged Attack:
    1)Completion of Windurst Missions
    2)Completion of the Shadowreign Windurst Quest "At Journey's End"
    3)Completion of the Mog Garden quest "Cry Not, Caretaker" to unlock Monster Rearing
    4)Mauve-wristed Gomberry
    5)Sang Buaya
    6)???

    Magic Accuracy/Magic Evasion:
    1)Completion of Zilart Missions
    2)Completion of A Crystalline Prophecy Missions
    3)Dazzling Dolores
    4)Sabotender Royal

    Magic Defense:
    1)Completion of Chains of Promathia Missions
    2)Completion of any one Trust quest: Trust: Bastok, Trust: San d'Oria, Trust: Windurst
    3)Attain Legend rank in any Adoulin Coalition
    4)Taelmoth the Diremaw
    5)Zduhac
    6)???

    Magic Attack:
    1)Completion of Treasures of Aht Urhgan Missions
    2)Completion of A Shantotto Ascension Missions
    5)Belphegor
    4)Oryx
    5)???

    Killer+
    1)Duke Vepar

    Spoils+
    1)Kill 100 NM (t4)

    Rare Enemy +:
    1)Completion of Wings of the Goddess Missions
    2)Completion of Seekers of Adoulin Missions
    3)Complete Abyssea quest "Dawn of Death"
    4)Complete Abyssea quest "Tenuous Existence"
    5)Defeat Provenance Watcher
    6)Defeat some combination of Proto-Ultime, Proto-Omega, Arch-Omega, Arch-Ultima

    Luck+
    1)Attain all three titles: "Dead Body", "Frozen Dead Body", "Toxin Tussler"
    1)Complete RoV: Ring My Bell
    2)Complete RoV: Uncertain Futures

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    Has anyone checked the last batch of RoE quests?

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    Sorry my bad. I meant for the Tier Values and base level list found here https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Escha

    i honestly dont remember which one gave which seal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Has anyone checked the last batch of RoE quests?
    i need to find the threshold, i'm at ~600 and only unlocked "over ninety-thousand".

    however, we shouldn't have to do these, since all seals (not related to reisenjima NMs) were available to at least one person on the day of update having done no new content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanfrano View Post
    Killing Provenance Watcher or clearing the Voidwatch storyline (two CSs after clearing Provenance Watcher) unlocks a Rare Enemy+ vorseal, not sure what unlocks it but I killed Provenance Watcher and did the two cutscenes after that and got this new vorseal.
    must just be prov watcher because i had already killed that, but just completed "crystal guardian" and "endings and beginnings" without unlocking a new vorseal.

    considering that information, shinryu is probably another objective... which i cannot test.

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