Ovelia: Agrias, what's a Vanille?
Agrias: Vanille? Never heard of him.
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So remind me again why that argument didn't include reasons why the following weren't included:
Ashe
Rydia
Tifa
Garnet
Lion
Cloud in Drag
Terra
... given that they were also strong, atypical female characters who didn't conform to the "independent woman" archetype?
Ashe's husband died
Rydia's mom and whole village died
etc etc etc
Part of his crazy argument was that these characters didn't require any sort of "catalyst" to start wanting to fight to save the world such as that. I can't say I agree with the guy but most if not all of those characters wouldn't fit based on his criteria.
No joke though, Cloud in drag is a better female character than the rest of that list.
Ah I see. So his argument is Vanille didn't need a reason to fight or be good, she just was whereas everyone was fighting because "something happened to them".
He goes more into that in the Penelo and Mumor (yes, this nigga mentions Mumor as one of the best female characters) sections but its something he values very highly.
I think I'm glad I didn't even try to read the OP.
So he values shit writing with no motivation.
Holy wat
I sometimes wonder if people actually deserve respect for how far they can take their delusions.
BUT ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, KSANDRA. HELP BECAUSE ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
I half expected the part with Cloud to end with "and doesn't afraid of anything at all."
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kN_XqzlWR1...18-523-294.png
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...uistiswiki.jpg
These two characters exist. Thread means nothing.
Man they really tried to make Tifa looked like Rinoa there.
http://orig10.deviantart.net/9b02/f/...by_yenni00.jpg
You take your pick. Still mai waifu.
Nomura honestly wasn't good at female faces early on. He still might not be. x.x
Pretty sure its just that technology got better.