PC Principal thread

[Zetanio]

I hope you also took note of the fact that they snapped their fingers instead of clapping. No need for a congratulatory triggering.

I don't want to live on Earth anymore.

[Blubbartron]

I'm still waiting for finger snapping to be considered offensive because cripples and the extremely retarded often lack the manual dexterity to snap. Fucking ableist shitlords.

[BerenTebogo]

Couldn't last more than 10s into video. What were they so angry about?

[thetruepandagod]

Couldn't last more than 10s into video. What were they so angry about?

read the email in the link, it's what they were protesting.

[Stilzkin]

Couldn't last more than 10s into video. What were they so angry about?

An email was sent to students suggesting what they should and should not wear for Halloween.

The professor in the video's wife, who is also a professor at the school, sent out an email in response saying that each individual student should be responsible for deciding what an appropriate Halloween costume is.

[BerenTebogo]

Not that it merits being yelled at like that, but what sort of dumbfuck do you need to be in this day and age to think that sending an email to college kids telling them what they should or shouldn't wear is ever a good idea?

That's like "hey look, a lion, I wonder if he likes being poked repeatedly by sharp objects?!"

[thetruepandagod]

An email was sent to students suggesting what they should and should not wear for Halloween.

The professor in the video's wife, who is also a professor at the school, sent out an email in response saying that each individual student should be responsible for deciding what an appropriate Halloween costume is.

Not that it merits being yelled at like that, but what sort of dumbfuck do you need to be in this day and age to think that sending an email to college kids telling them what they should or shouldn't wear is ever a good idea?

That's like "hey look, a lion, I wonder if he likes being poked repeatedly by sharp objects?!"

To clarify, the students were in favor of the first email that was dictating costumes. The protesting students were in response to the follow up email in regards to the first like stilz said in his 2nd sentence.

Here it is.

Dear Sillimanders:
Nicholas and I have heard from a number of students who were frustrated by the mass email sent to the student body about appropriate Halloween­wear. I’ve always found Halloween an interesting embodiment of more general adult worries about young people. As some of you may be aware, I teach a class on “The Concept of the Problem Child,” and I was speaking with some of my students yesterday about the ways in which Halloween – traditionally a day of subversion for children and young people – is also an occasion for adults to exert their control.
When I was young, adults were freaked out by the specter of Halloween candy poisoned by lunatics, or spiked with razor blades (despite the absence of a single recorded case of such an event). Now, we’ve grown to fear the sugary candy itself. And this year, we seem afraid that college students are unable to decide how to dress themselves on Halloween. I don’t wish to trivialize genuine concerns about cultural and personal representation, and other challenges to our lived experience in a plural community. I know that many decent people have proposed guidelines on Halloween costumes from a spirit of avoiding hurt and offense. I laud those goals, in theory, as most of us do. But in practice, I wonder if we should reflect more transparently, as a community, on the consequences of an institutional (which is to say: bureaucratic and administrative) exercise of implied control over college students.
It seems to me that we can have this discussion of costumes on many levels: we can talk about complex issues of identify, free speech, cultural appropriation, and virtue “signalling.” But I wanted to share my thoughts with you from a totally different angle, as an educator concerned with the developmental stages of childhood and young adulthood.
As a former preschool teacher, for example, it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is something objectionably “appropriative” about a blonde­haired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day. Pretend play is the foundation of most cognitive tasks, and it seems to me that we want to be in the business of encouraging the exercise of imagination, not constraining it. I suppose we could agree that there is a difference between fantasizing about an individual character vs. appropriating a culture, wholesale, the latter of which could be seen as (tacky)(offensive)(jejeune)(hurtful), take your pick. But, then, I wonder what is the statute of limitations on dreaming of dressing as Tiana the Frog Princess if you aren’t a black girl from New Orleans? Is it okay if you are eight, but not 18? I don’t know the answer to these questions; they seem unanswerable. Or at the least, they put us on slippery terrain that I, for one, prefer not to cross.
Which is my point. I don’t, actually, trust myself to foist my Halloweenish standards and motives on others. I can’t defend them anymore than you could defend yours. Why do we dress up on Halloween, anyway? Should we start explaining that too? I’ve always been a good mimic and I enjoy accents. I love to travel, too, and have been to every continent but Antarctica. When I lived in Bangladesh, I bought a sari because it was beautiful, even though I looked stupid in it and never wore it once. Am I fetishizing and appropriating others’ cultural experiences? Probably. But I really, really like them too. Even if we could agree on how to avoid offense – and I’ll note that no one around campus seems overly concerned about the offense taken by religiously conservative folks to skin­revealing costumes – I wonder, and I am not trying to be provocative: Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious… a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive? American universities were once a safe space not only for maturation but also for a certain regressive, or even transgressive, experience;increasingly, it seems, they have become places of censure and prohibition. And the censure and prohibition come from above, not from yourselves! Are we all okay with this transfer of power? Have we lost faith in young people's capacity – in your capacity ­ to exercise self­censure, through social norming, and also in your capacity to ignore or reject things that trouble you? We tend to view this shift from individual to institutional agency as a tradeoff between libertarian vs. liberal values (“liberal” in the American, not European sense of the word).
Nicholas says, if you don’t like a costume someone is wearing, look away, or tell them you are offended. Talk to each other. Free speech and the ability to tolerate offence are the hallmarks of a free and open society.
But – again, speaking as a child development specialist – I think there might be something missing in our discourse about the exercise of free speech (including how we dress ourselves) on campus, and it is this: What does this debate about Halloween costumes say about our view of young adults, of their strength and judgment?
In other words: Whose business is it to control the forms of costumes of young people? It's not mine, I know that.
Happy Halloween.

[BerenTebogo]

I didn't read it I was just responding to dude above me summary.

I ain't got time for readin' words.

Edit: which was totally different from what you described lol. I may read it later when I'm not on my phone.

[thetruepandagod]

ya that was my bad i edit'd post didn't see stilzkin at first

Anyway, this quote sums up the entire thing.

"It is not about creating an intellectual space, it's about creating a home here." - Student of Yale.

[Galkaeater]

Nuking Yale would solve alot of problems

[Teryu]

If you remove the title of the video and play it without any context it's basically every student protest.

[vivbiibasjiu]

I hope you also took note of the fact that they snapped their fingers instead of clapping. No need for a congratulatory triggering.

I forsee them to start doing that creepy thing they did in the class/cult from the Wayward Pines show, or from The Giver movie... both did the same thing, extremely creepy way to "clap", and coincidentally The Giver world is pretty much what a trigger-free 'utopia' would look like

[thetruepandagod]

[Ragnus]

Figures.

[Churchill]

Also correct that the jews did it

[dasva]

I hope you also took note of the fact that they snapped their fingers instead of clapping. No need for a congratulatory triggering.

I thought they were supposed to do jazz hands or whatever? Man I can't keep up with this

[Tymon]

This is the right call actually, I don't support criminal charges over text in any form, even if I think the text in question is pants-on-head retarded/hateful.

She deserves to be a pariah and lose her job, but not go to jail.

[dasva]

Technically advocating violence even if it is arguably not completely serious is a step farther than just being hateful.

[Charismatic]

Something tells me she wasn't entirely serious with a hashtag #killallmen
With it not being serious, even if its a step farther than just hateful (which I don't necessarily agree with)... I don't think its a step far enough that a person should need to do time for it.

I mostly agree with Tymon on this one. Though I would have still laughed my ass off if she did time for it (despite the fact that I wouldn't have agreed with the ruling and would have thought it'd set a terrible precedent)

[SephYuyX]

Follow up to the Yale thing:

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comm...e_space_hands/

Perfect reason why we shouldnt have stopped letting teachers beat kids in class.