PC Principal thread

[Ghost_Wheel22]

I mean I was being flippant but basically, this. there's a huge difference between not baking a cake for a gay couple and not baking a cake for the person who thinks black people aren't actually people.

But the blacks ARE people! Just, you know, 2/3s of one.

[Zetanio]

But the blacks ARE people! Just, you know, 2/3s of one.

3/5ths.

Cmon man.

[Tokitoki]

Good thing Betsy DeVos is on the case to help our education system.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

3/5ths.

Cmon man.

You didn't account for inflation.

[Zetanio]

Hey now, black people aren't fat. You take it back.

[NynJa]

Wrong. Tumblrinas don't visit dens of toxic masculinity... or exercise

This one did lmao
But she also went in a skirt... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Marootsoobutsu]

But does being a cunt to a well established cunt still make you a cunt?

Yes. Be not only justified in confrontation based on who you are confronting, but in how you do it. Her actions create, however limitedly, sympathizers for this turd-stain. She did not attack his views or his positions, but him, and I can get why that's appealing or whatever, but it's counter-productive.

It should be noted that white supremicists are a vanishingly small portion of the American population, and their ideology has grow increasingly unacceptable over the decades. Her confrontation wasn't needed to further that goal-- she was not helping the cause of delegitimizing his views, it only humanized him. Her confrontation served no purpose other than to satiate her own ego, and while, yes, she removed him from the gym, she has gained him far more attention than he deserves, and given him yet another platform to gain attention. At the same time, whatever viewpoints she has are put under greater scrutiny, and people associated with similar ideologies get put in her pigeon-hole, whether they are polite or shriek like harpies. It's not fair, it's not what should be, but it's the way people react.

To wax Biblical, "“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves” (Matthew 10:16, KJV) When Christians follow that advice-- striving for wisdom and insight, remaining free of hypocrisy or even the *appearance* of hypocrisy, the faith spreads, and gains respect even from many who generally dislike the religion. The same mentality is eminently effective with most proselytizing-- and make no mistake, wars of ideology are an engagement in proselytizing. It's not enough to *be* right, because that persuades profoundly few people, regardless of intelligence or education. You must *appear* and *behave* in ways that seem right, in ways that are "above the fray". Being "less bad" isn't enough: being "better" isn't enough. You must be "good".

It's why this "ogre in a tennis-skirt" is getting flack: she is clearly, by any reasonable standard, even in this shrillish, selfish moment, less harmful than a propegator of Nazi ideology. And yet, because she is still *not actually behaving well*, the message itself is lost to the emotional recoil of her being, well, whatever she's being.

Civil discourse should never stop from the side of those who would value it, and it should never become a weapon the vile can use to defend themselves against those who would stand against hate.

[Tyrath]

You know my post was just an excuse to say cunt 3 times right?

But really no. Civil discourse stops when someone thinks black people aren't people. Nazis deserve punches in the face, not words.

[Yuri-G]

You know my post was just an excuse to say cunt 3 times right?

yeah but did you say it in a British accent, because that's the only proper way to say cunt, you right cunt

[Marootsoobutsu]

You know my post was just an excuse to say cunt 3 times right?

But really no. Civil discourse stops when someone thinks black people aren't people. Nazis deserve punches in the face, not words.

Civil discourse isn't about persuading Nazis; its about preventing people with undeveloped ideologies or impressions from empathizing with Nazis.

What Nazis deserve, and what is effective at stopping Nazis from spreading their ideology, are often not the same thing.

[Tyrath]

Disagree. Those videos of Spencer getting punched are fun for the whole family.

If people are sympathizing with a NAZI for getting kicked out of a gym, they have their priorities all wrong.

[Andalusian girls]

yeah but did you say it in a British accent, because that's the only proper way to say cunt, you right cunt

nah m8 the Anglos may have invented it but the Aussies have taken it to heights never before imagined

[Zetanio]

nah m8 the Anglos may have invented it but the Aussies have taken it to heights never before imagined

Fucking struth.

[dasva]

Disagree. Those videos of Spencer getting punched are fun for the whole family.

If people are sympathizing with a NAZI for getting kicked out of a gym, they have their priorities all wrong.

And I'm sure you will persuade them to change those priorities with bad behavior amirite? Or do you plan on punching them in the face too?

[Headspace]

Maroot, if you could go back in time. Would you kill baby Hitler?


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[Tyrath]

And I'm sure you will persuade them to change those priorities with bad behavior amirite? Or do you plan on punching them in the face too?

I don't have anyone in my life who needs to be convinced to not sympathize with Nazis so I'll worry about that problem when I get there.

But you go on worrying about the poor treatment of Nazis.

[dasva]

I don't have anyone in my life who needs to be convinced to not sympathize with Nazis so I'll worry about that problem when I get there.

But you go on worrying about the poor treatment of Nazis.

Oh I'm not worried because I hate everyone and my doomsday prep is mostly ways to watch the world burn from a better angle. But if I was to worry it would be for all people

[dasva]

This one did lmao
But she also went in a skirt... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

5 internet bucks says she either wasn't a member of the gym or bought a membership as a new years resolution but stopped going after 2 weeks and only showed up this time because she had found out he goes there

[archibaldcrane]

Maroot, if you could go back in time. Would you kill baby Hitler?


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Hell yeah, you gotta step up

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[Tyrath]

I bet Maroot would get him admission into art school instead.