PC Principal thread

[Gredival]

Yes - I can look at words objectively and separate them from the atrocities that people have committed. Banning words doesn't work for me. Gay people aren't gonna stop using the "f-word" or the "q-word" (by the way having to use "f-word" or "q-word" in place of the word, when its not being directed at anyone, is fuckin dumb) in reference to themselves, then why should anyone else. It is the same with black people and the "N-word." They're not going to stop using it so how can you insist everyone else does.

Policing language is silly.

I agree that policing language is stupid, but something you don't seem to be considering is that homosexuals, blacks, and other minorities are not ubiquitous monoliths. One black person may find the appropriation and re-purposing to be empowering and part of how their culture takes back the power that word has while another may simultaneously feel that the best approach is to deal with language like it's Freddy Kruger and that the only way to truly eliminate the subjugation the word represents is by erasing the very memory of it from our lexicon. The latter type doesn't want anyone using it, including the former, but that's not going to stop the former.

Many members of the LBGT community equate the use of faggot this way with how the gay community came to "own" the word queer, which used to be used derogatorily, and transformed it into something neutral. This was more or less Chiron's point in his meltdown a while back. As a homsexual, he felt that he was at the very least entitled to use faggot to describe himself. Others feel that the word has come to represent nothing more than a way to ostracize and alienate homosexuals.

Some feminists are attempting to do the same thing to the word "slut" by transforming it from something negative into about having the equal freedom to embrace their sexuality as men.

[Gredival]

This is unrelated to this topic, but because of your sig I mentally have you punctuating every discussion, no matter the topic, with "ABYSSEA RUINED FFXI"

[Yuri-G]

welp, I just learned that there's a difference between trans and trans*


do yourself a favor, don't look into it

[Zetanio]

shoulda listened. one google and my head exploded.

[NynJa]

Pass the nukes pls

[djzombie]

totally not checking that out at work but i'll probably regret looking into it later once i get home haha.

[Tarage]

Am I missing something? I googled the difference and a cursory glance seems to indicate that the * just applies a wildcard to it, akin to a search. Which as a programmer seems fine to me. Am I missing some deeper meaning?

[Yuri-G]

http://www.thepulpzine.com/the-trans...stop-using-it/

[dasva]

Am I missing something? I googled the difference and a cursory glance seems to indicate that the * just applies a wildcard to it, akin to a search. Which as a programmer seems fine to me. Am I missing some deeper meaning?

You forget this is the PC thread where a lot of the people posted about are inventing extra meanings and reasons to feel slighted over nothing

[Yuri-G]

You forget this is the PC thread where a lot of the people posted about are inventing extra meanings and reasons to feel slighted over nothing

oh no, it's even worse. check out the link I posted.


tldr; people started using trans* to include all people of different gender expressions and then people got pissed that they were using trans* because trans should cover all gender expressions and also trans* is somehow offensive to trans women and oh god I just want to kill myself now AND I AM A TRANS SUPPORTER AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING that's how fucking awful this is

[dasva]

oh no, it's even worse. check out the link I posted.


tldr; people started using trans* to include all people of different gender expressions and then people got pissed that they were using trans* because trans should cover all gender expressions and also trans* is somehow offensive to trans women and oh god I just want to kill myself now AND I AM A TRANS SUPPORTER AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING that's how fucking awful this is

I actually read it before you posted it. There's also another page that comes up high on search that talks about how is transmisogynist lol. And then there were ones where somehow it's poisoned the term transgendered because in comparison it is less inclusive. Even saw one where the complaint was asterisks are often used after something is used to denote that it's not completely legitimate or has fine print/foot notes for it.

What I said covers that I just used a more general description to fit the larger theme of the thread

[djzombie]

tldr; people started using trans* to include all people of different gender expressions and then people got pissed that they were using trans* because trans should cover all gender expressions and also trans* is somehow offensive to trans women and oh god I just want to kill myself now AND I AM A TRANS SUPPORTER AND GENDER NON-CONFORMING that's how fucking awful this is

That is what I mean man, at some point has their arbitrary line where they say, alright, thats enough, this is bullshit. I think you just found yours. Mine is gender-fluidity, I think its complete bullshit, but to each their own, just because I can't relate to it doesn't mean it's not a thing.

[Tarage]

Those people are stupid and can fuck off. Anyone implying that there's a difference between the two is stupid.

It's a fucking search token.

[Andalusian girls]

You forget this is the PC thread where a lot of the people posted about are inventing extra meanings and reasons to feel slighted over nothing

i thought this was the thread where people constantly get offended by other people being easily offended

[dasva]

i thought this was the thread where people constantly get offended by other people being easily offended

This generalization offends me

[Andalusian girls]

[Yuri-G]

That is what I mean man, at some point has their arbitrary line where they say, alright, thats enough, this is bullshit. I think you just found yours. Mine is gender-fluidity, I think its complete bullshit, but to each their own, just because I can't relate to it doesn't mean it's not a thing.

Well now, I think we can land on this and be cool, because I respect that. ^^

[NynJa]

Those people are stupid and can fuck off. Anyone implying that there's a difference between the two is stupid.

It's a fucking search token.

These people want to be a unique snowflake.

[Fiye]

Says the guy who refuses to shop online.

[Tarage]

These people want to be a unique snowflake.

So long as their unique snowflake is literally a picture of my anus then sure.