PC Principal thread

[mallister]

That's what you're missing. It literally *is* rape. Your personal opinion on it is kind of irrelevant.

[Koul]

Gunna switch things up a bit:

[Marootsoobutsu]

That's what you're missing. It literally *is* rape. Your personal opinion on it is kind of irrelevant.

And businesses are people.

The law can be wrong, and in this case, it absolutely is. What makes rape, rape, isn't just the lack of consent-- it is consent being taken from you. The fact that the law misses that is no less idiotic than the law denying the ability of a male to be raped for most of our legal history. Yes, right now, by definition, drunk sex is rape. The law is wrong, and it needs changed, because it misses what is actually awful about rape.

[kuronosan]

Or lawyers need to stop slut shaming victims to get their clients a softer sentence?

[Greatguardian]

Man, it sure is a good thing there are, you know, people involved in this process. Like, peers, who are hopefully capable of distinguishing a rape from a one night bar stand. What do they call those again? Oh yeah. Juries.

[dasva]

The fact that the law misses that is no less idiotic than the law denying the ability of a male to be raped for most of our legal history. .

Right now in many areas it still is. Some states only count rape as penetration by penis

[dasva]

Anyways moving away from all this rapage. Garlic bread has made the washpo!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...5167&tid=ss_fb

The real take from this is to remember apparently we are all using the term sjw wrong. Clearly it's a good thing!!!

“social justice warriors,” a derogatory name for people who speak out on progressive issues.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Or lawyers need to stop slut shaming victims to get their clients a softer sentence?

Oh, the whole process is horrible. There are some investigators who are great, and in larger cities, the police departments are getting better able to deal with rape questions with people trained for it. Small towns are hit-or-miss on whether you'll get an objective-but-compassionate officer who can listen without judging. And yes, lawyers are an enormously deterring factor in people seeking justice, because it can be indescribably horrible, especially if it's fresh.

I'm of the opinion that A) we need to teach people how to avoid high-risk situations, or to mitigate those factors, but that B) I don't care how careless they were, it's not their fault if they are raped, the rapist should be tossed in prison and never let out. I understand why lawyers do what they do-- everyone is entitled to a defense-- and there's no simple way to deal with rape when it comes to trial. I don't have a solution for the trial system of it, but I do know that the weaker we make the definition of rape, the easier it should be for a lawyer to muddy the "Was it rape, or was it a drunk one night stand that s/he regrets?"

And right now, GG, juries *SHOULD* find a drunk one-night-stand as rape, because that's the law. My objection is not about what the definition of the law is, it's the morality of the law. A jurist's job is not to decide if they like the law; it's to decide if the law was actually broken.

[Greatguardian]

Yeahh. Good luck getting 6-12 people to agree to send someone to jail with a spot on the sex offender registry if they aren't convinced that the act in question doesn't meet their personal criteria for rape.

Broader than necessary legal criteria are important because they allow public officials to take action in edge cases that may not otherwise be prosecuted. Juries are there as a sanity check to make sure the baby isn't thrown out with the bath water.

[zoobernut]

Just posted something on my facebook page joking about how bae which a lot of people use as a nickname for their loved ones or babies means poop in Danish and apparently in Korean too. Someone told me it was shitty of me to diss a word that had its origins in AAVE (African American Vernacular English) and kinda went off on me.

I said I was joking about it and not putting down AAVE and bae has become an internet slang term and I don't think words need defending.

Here is my original post text: "Due to the pervasive use of the word bae to refer to loved ones or babies I feel the need to let people know that it means "poop" in Danish. That is all for now. Thank you."

Here is the response they made: "There are a lot of words that mean different things when you translate them in to another language, but it seems kind of shitty (ha ha) to diss on a word that is meant for affection, esp since it has its roots in AAVE which people already disdain for sounding "uneducated" etc."

What do you guys think? Is it not nice to diss on a word that has roots in AAVE?

[Zetanio]

Who the fuck cares? No one owns language and words have different meanings everywhere. Tell them to grow a pair.

[zoobernut]

Who the fuck cares? No one owns language and words have different meanings everywhere. Tell them to grow a pair.

This was my take as well. I also pointed out that a large majority of comedy has its roots in making fun of words and playing off their alternative meanings. It is a pretty ubiquitous thing in comedy. SJW's are killing comedy.

[dasva]

Your mistake was your joke involved people/cultures that were not white

[Andalusian girls]

tell them to stop being such a fag and if they object berate them for not recognizing your European tabacco appreciation heritage

[Blubbartron]

Ebonics is shit, and deserves "dissing" at every opportunity. Most educated, intellectual black folks (Bill Cosby, Colin Powell, etc) have openly stated that black people shouldn't speak it anymore. It encourages imprecise and improper language, and that should never be encouraged. The only time black intellectuals tend to use it is when they're trying to "reach" the youth of their people (like NDT).

[tyven]

Ebonics is shit, and deserves "dissing" at every opportunity. Most educated, intellectual black folks (Bill Cosby, Colin Powell, etc) have openly stated that black people shouldn't speak it anymore. It encourages imprecise and improper language, and that should never be encouraged. The only time black intellectuals tend to use it is when they're trying to "reach" the youth of their people (like NDT).

come on fam

[AidenCarby]

tell them to stop being such a fag and if they object berate them for not recognizing your European tabacco appreciation heritage

weak ban

[Niiro]

[zoobernut]

I guess all the white people using that term were culturally appropriating it.

[Melena]

it was the word fag. Grendal has stated in another thread that it's an insta time out from him if you are using it in a derogatory way. So if you are to say it to someone on here, make sure it's known you mean you are offering them a smoke since that's what they called cigarettes in England.