PC Principal thread

[thetruepandagod]

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8106

Man I love these comics

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[Niiro]

Ok, I may have been generous when I said the Irish spoke English.

[Salodin]

K. Glad your racism disappeared because you said you weren't being racist.

Yeah, the country of China telling it's citizens to beware of indians, pakistanis, and blacks is less racist than pointing out that most people can't tell the difference between indians, pakistanis, or *insert random brown minority here*. You almost got me to bite, but nah son.

[Tyrath]

Oh okay. So you admit that you were being racist, just not as much as the pamphlet. That works for me.

[Salodin]

That wasn't me admitting anything, it's me pointing out the absurdity of what you said. Sarcasm is weak to internet, but damn son you trying real hard. On the other hand, the fact that you take my word for more worth than the largest country in the world is...nice. I guess.

[Tyrath]

I mean you're grasping at my exaggeration that you're worse than the country to make yourself not sound racist. So yeah.

Also this whole things probably just a misunderstanding from this post anyway

Are they brown? I rest my case.

I thought you were saying they were all the same. Not as you later said that you were pointing out that people would see them all the same.

[Salodin]

Nigga it's BG. The fact that all of ya'll don't immediately think "oh they're just being sarcastic" is beyond me.

[Tyrath]

I mean I wasn't 100% serious but you ran with it so I did too

[TheDirtyHobo]

Iowa SJW degree

I think this embodies the PC movement in a nutshell. A college that's 80% white having a degree on how to integrate minorities without any actual input from them.

[Marootsoobutsu]

"Irish-American Dynamite Skunk" is an awesome name for a punk rock band from Boston.

And I stand by what I said, you can't compare the Irish who were white, Christian, and spoke English to the majority of today's immigrants.

You really can, though, and if you're being honest about historic interpretation, you should.

There is a very far, far world from theoretical political rights (which blacks had in equal abundance with the Irish outside of the South) and functional political rights (which blacks lacked in essentially equal abundance with the Irish). Our modern idea of "race" as "European, African, American, Indian, East Asian" etc... just didn't fly for most of America's history. And Language was *definitely* not the talking point that it is today-- Mennonites were never given crap, despite that many of their communities spoke nothing but German late into the 1940s (and some still don't speak English). And if people didn't learn English, it was largely a "whatever". I mean, government documents were only in English, but there wasn't a massive social stigma like we kind of have today. And the Irish weren't Christian-- they were Catholic. Okay, okay. I see Catholics as Christian, but the massive Protestant majority of Americans in the 1840s when real Irish hate started certainly did *not*. They were Papists, not Christians. They were as-- or more-- dangerous to Christianity in the eyes of many as Muslims are today.

You don't get to sugarcoat their perceptions by using today's standards. You don't get to downplay what people went through-- and no, I'm not saying they had it as hard as blacks, or American Indians. No one did. But that doesn't mean they were treated anything like "okay", and it doesn't mean that we look at things through today's lens. There's more than enough bad history that we can give everyone their due. And yes, the Irish were ultimately accepted, essentially after the 1920s with the rise of the 2nd Klan and an emphasis on "white" over all else that kind of spread, and the rise in popularity of eugenics that simplified concepts of race down to what we have today.

But socially, and for all real purposes politically, the Irish were as hated and screwed over as anyone except blacks and American Indians, and in some areas of the country, more so. They were *DEFINITELY* more hated than Latino immigrants are today, and probably more so than even Arab immigrants are.

Edit: I should clarify that Mennonites, while given a lot of crap, weren't really given flack for their language until the early 20th century, about the time of WWI, which, y'know. World War I. Big war against the Germans. But they were recognized as Americans, and afforded whatever rights they actually bothered to pursue.

[thetruepandagod]

You don't get to downplay what people went through-- and no, I'm not saying they had it as hard as blacks, or American Indians. No one did.

Bruh.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Bruh.

Are you suggesting any other people group in our country was put through more hell than blacks and American Indians?

[Gadritan]

Did you just go all PC in the PC thread and break out American Indians?

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[Vandalhart]

Are you suggesting any other people group in our country was put through more hell than blacks and American Indians?

I'm not familiar with much of American history, but I'd guess the Chinese got a bad run back during the railroad building days. Unless that was more here in Canada.

[Drai]

Don't forget about all those Japanese citizens put into internment camps during WWII, obviously not as long lasting as Native or Black strife, but still pretty bad.

[Salodin]

Bad, but not slavery or genocide bad.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Sure I guess being a legal immigrate/natural born citizen and having all your assets forfeited by the government then getting relocated to a detainment camp for an unknown amount of time with no recourse isn't that bad. Sure it's not Trail of Tears bad, or enslaving the blacks/irish bad, only a little bad. And while it was mainly Japanese there were also sizable amounts Italians and Germans that were placed in internment camps.

[Salodin]

I mean, there are many tall mountains, but only one can be tallest. We did some fucked up shit in our history, but I don't think anything beats what we did to the natives.

[Zetanio]

I mean, there are many tall mountains, but only one can be tallest. We did some fucked up shit in our history, but I don't think anything beats what we did to the natives.

I agree with that. Nothing's worse than literal genocide.

[Andalusian girls]

or enslaving the blacks/irish bad

bruh