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  1. #181
    Sea Torques
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    I can confirm you can get 10+ Gold in Normal. You need 4 parties or so on Dino Island to do so, though.

  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lujei View Post
    I can confirm you can get 10+ Gold in Normal. You need 4 parties or so on Dino Island to do so, though.
    Well dino island is usually a clusterfuck in normal, Lol. Our tracks kept poppin Vs instead of stars tho.

  3. #183
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    HOT LITTLE SNATCH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dignity View Post
    In other note, SMNs are a bit weak job to bring towards diadem due to DoT limitation. if you want to get contribution for a NM and all dots are filled then you're kinda fucked as a smn lol.
    I don't know if there's actually a hard cap on the number of debuffs/DoTs, even after the debuff bar is filled and your DoTs don't show up (after I think 30 debuffs?) they still apply to the mob and do damage. Maybe there's some higher cap that you can actually hit with 50 odd people hitting something though. It does make keeping track of your DoT times annoying though. In my experience BLM feels like the king here just because they have an infinite resource for doing damage, every time I play MNK instead of a tank I get mad at my TP.

  4. #184
    Ridill
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    32 will display on the mob

    It can't have more than 64 total

    Any more and you start seeing "no effect" messages for any enfeeb, even things that aren't DoTs (ie. Trick attack "no effect")

    edit: or 30 and 60 as mentioned below (a lot of XI limitations used byte-divisible numbers)

  5. #185
    Resident Moogle
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    Been 60 since 2.1.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a
    The maximum number of statuses that can be inflicted upon notorious monsters and dungeon bosses has been raised to 60.

    * Please note, however, that only 30 will be visible under the target bar.

    That said, by god, event could have used some randomization of mob camps or inject some form of FATEs into it or something to prevent everyone zerging the same camp.

  6. #186
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    Definitely going to default BLM for casters in Diadem for now, went as SMN once and "wtf is wrong with my dps? oh the mob has 700 effects on it already..." It's pretty noticeable and on a job that relies majorly on dot ticking for dps it's just a terrible option for Diadem where the large portion of mobs might live for at most half the time your dots are up, if you can even get them on in the first place.

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    Anyone with Hard mode unlocked mind sharing how much Surveillance is required?
    Just unlocked it earlier, and it's only 90 which is the same that's needed to go to the zones to discover it to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Gimme.
    All yours if you still need it.

  8. #188
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    They need S ranks to spawn randomly. On top of triggering them, so at least it would give you some reason to fly around.

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    Definitely going to default BLM for casters in Diadem for now, went as SMN once and "wtf is wrong with my dps? oh the mob has 700 effects on it already..." It's pretty noticeable and on a job that relies majorly on dot ticking for dps it's just a terrible option for Diadem where the large portion of mobs might live for at most half the time your dots are up, if you can even get them on in the first place.
    Can confirm, we had double SMN earlier with 5+ parties in HM and had trouble getting credit at times due to it.

  10. #190
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    I never have issues as SMN in there but it's a lot more work to get credit. You need to cycle targets and never let dots drop or it's a coin flip if you can get your dots back on or not.

  11. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    I dunno if instancing is server or data center based,
    Data center based, at least for Normal mode. I had Dervy in the first one I did.

  12. #192
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    Hard's the same too, ran in to a few peeps I knew that server transferred the other night.

  13. #193
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    Is credit hate based like Hunts or damage based?




    Quote Originally Posted by Neon_Sea View Post
    They need S ranks to spawn randomly. On top of triggering them, so at least it would give you some reason to fly around.

    There are lots of things they could have done better to make the zone more interactive. Like each island has a specific S rank that has specific drops. Ex. Dino island spawns the brontosaur and he drops Head and Feet items.

    This would cause people to use various islands to get specific drops. 50 players on top of each other in the same spot for 90 minutes is pretty dull.


    (This first 15 minutes are more exciting then the next 75, this is especially true if you don't cheese the currents)

  14. #194
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    MFW it turned into a zerg spam fest and not about exploration and quests:


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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    MFW it turned into a zerg spam fest and not about exploration and quests:

    Who the hell cares about quests or explorations, we all knew this was all about gear from the get go, Lol.



    I mean if people care all that much for quests/exploring, they can always solo que. Thats what I did back when I was tryin to figure out the fishing/gathering spots.

  16. #196
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    just make it ffxiv abbysea edition where mobs in a region drop a key item to pop a star NM on that island. encourage exploration and allow 1 party to kill the NMs in a reasonable amount of time.

    i think i'll finish up the last bronze spoils for the mount and call it a day until they inevitably tweak the zone a bit.

  17. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Is credit hate based like Hunts or damage based?
    I forget where it was mentioned (I couldn't find it at a glance in the patch notes) but they said the impact of enmity generated was significantly less when it came to getting credit for kills.

    So basically damage, stacking tanks won't help (unless they're WARs).

  18. #198
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    It's basically all damage because provoke works.

  19. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthia View Post
    Who the hell cares about quests or explorations, we all knew this was all about gear from the get go, Lol.



    I mean if people care all that much for quests/exploring, they can always solo que. Thats what I did back when I was tryin to figure out the fishing/gathering spots.
    I worded it wrong. Great that its about gear, but I wanted the content to be a little more engaging than hunts and trash mobs in the sky.

  20. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    I worded it wrong. Great that its about gear, but I wanted the content to be a little more engaging than hunts and trash mobs in the sky.
    Catch up content has always been mindless grinds.

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