San Bernadino Shooting

[Ragnus]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/san...ing/index.html

Officially declared an ISIS attack on home soil.

EDIT: Beaten by a couple hours. This is going to get even messier than usual.

[Yuri-G]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.jpg


:/


I love how the article launches with ISIS TIES OMG OMG and then a few paragraphs down says "well we don't really know how much she was influenced by ISIS and how much it was from other sources, also we think this is probably more of a workplace dispute than anything else."


Again: yes, report the ISIS "ties" if you want to call them that. but don't make that the focus. the article itself admits a few paragraphs in that investigators are placing a bigger focus on workplace hostility than terrorism ties... but no, let's lead with "OMG ISIS BE AFRAID THEY'RE COMING"


And I know I'm beating a dead horse here but if a Muslim who may have been influenced by ISIS committing a workplace-fueled shooting is "terrorism" then we've had a hell of a lot of non-Muslim "terrorist" incidents this year that weren't reported as such in the media. like, you know, a certain shooting last week for example - obviously meant to terrorize patrons, employees, executives, and supporters of Planned Parenthood and the pro-choice movement.


fuckkkkkkkk

[6souls]

ISIS released a statement where they don't claim responsibility, but welcome the women's declaration to have killed in their name.

[TummieGaruda]

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.jpg


:/


I love how the article launches with ISIS TIES OMG OMG and then a few paragraphs down says "well we don't really know how much she was influenced by ISIS and how much it was from other sources, also we think this is probably more of a workplace dispute than anything else."


Again: yes, report the ISIS "ties" if you want to call them that. but don't make that the focus. the article itself admits a few paragraphs in that investigators are placing a bigger focus on workplace hostility than terrorism ties... but no, let's lead with "OMG ISIS BE AFRAID THEY'RE COMING"


And I know I'm beating a dead horse here but if a Muslim who may have been influenced by ISIS committing a workplace-fueled shooting is "terrorism" then we've had a hell of a lot of non-Muslim "terrorist" incidents this year that weren't reported as such in the media. like, you know, a certain shooting last week for example - obviously meant to terrorize patrons, employees, executives, and supporters of Planned Parenthood and the pro-choice movement.


fuckkkkkkkk

Yup especially when you look at the second paragraph of the article:

Malik's post was made on an account with a different name, one U.S. official said. The officials did not explain how they knew Malik made the post.

Also it starts off as "Investigators think" that she made the pledge to ISIS.

[archibaldcrane]

So, they are devout Muslims, have a 6 month old kid, and got married this year...

May Allah shame them for their sex out of wedlock.

[TummieGaruda]

Quick question: Where was the 6 month old kid when all of this went down?

[mallister]

Grandmother's. They dropped her off before going to slaughter colleagues and coworkers.

[6souls]

The guy's brother's family was taking care of her while the couple was supposed to be working.

[dasva]

I can't find 2014 gun deaths, but 2014 auto deaths fell to 33,675. If gun deaths rose at all in 2014 they likely surpassed it.

Kind of misleading to compare total deaths when talking about public safety threat. As the little note says firearms include things like suicides which I doubt there are that many if any justified vehicular homicides. If you go to where they got the numbers in that graph it shows that of that 30k+ firearm deaths in 2013 21,175 were suicide. Actual homicides and accidents combined are under 12k and have been on a downward trend for awhile. What you are really seeing is an increase in suicides which I'd probably guess given how high rates amongst vets are might have something to do with the decade or so of us sending soldiers over there

[Churchill]

In 2013:


So a mere 168 more auto deaths than firearm deaths in 2013, but the way each is trending it's likely that in either 2014 or 2015 guns surpassed autos.



I can't find 2014 gun deaths, but 2014 auto deaths fell to 33,675. If gun deaths rose at all in 2014 they likely surpassed it.

Yeah I mean, you posted a graphic where the guy told you it had more to do with cars getting safer, and the graphic itself shows guns staying the same and cars getting safer.

[Churchill]

Yup especially when you look at the second paragraph of the article:



Also it starts off as "Investigators think" that she made the pledge to ISIS.

If y'all weren't liberals and if the government wasn't pussies this statement (these statements etc) would read differently.

Investigators think=we can't say how or where the information comes from but it's realz

[thetruepandagod]

Apparently the media bum-rushed the landlord and invited themselves inside the shooter's apartment/crime scene to go through all their shit. WTF.

When did it become okay for the news to broadcast this type of shit? (mother of shooter's personal ID/SSN shown)

Wait is that even legal? That's practically tampering with potential evidence

Generally a crime scene can be secured 6 months or more pretty easily. FBI claimed the investigation is "complete" so media is apparently allowed to traipse around. This is one of the weirder things I've ever seen.

All this shit was shown live. Doesn't sit right with me but I guess if FBI/police say case closed media can do w/e the hell they want given the landlord.

Spoiler: show

[dasva]

Bunch of ambulance chasers

[Kyreth]

Relevant to law enforcement failing at protecting what should have been a massive pile of evidence to sift through:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1lPJqaVpQjLJb

[Yuri-G]

If y'all weren't liberals and if the government wasn't pussies this statement (these statements etc) would read differently.

Investigators think=we can't say how or where the information comes from but it's realz

trust the government, they never lie.

[6souls]

Sounds like a civil suit against the landlord.

[Hirronimus]

America is a travel hazard according to Aussies.
http://mic.com/articles/129707/top-a...fter-shootings

It's Wild West out here, yo.

[Eph]

that churchil guy sure seems to hate muslims.. can you show me on the doll where they touched you?

[Churchill]

I can show you on my goat or 10 year old child

[Yuri-G]

I can show you on my goat or 10 year old child

ok I like you again