San Bernadino Shooting

[Salodin]

Yo, bomb disposal robots are the fucking worst. How the fuck is this one arm clawed robot supposed to open this zippered bag to check for explosives...with one fucking arm! They lowered its arm, in an up and down motion like it's trying to twerk, then when they realized it was zippered it turned around and stopped. Now it turned back around like it's thinking "wait, maybe if I try harder I can open this zipper with my one claw arm!". Jfc, we can send two robots to the planet mars but can't design a bomb disposal robot that can open zippered bags...

[Weltall]

Well that may be what started it.... but it likely was him getting pissed off a couple months ago, ultimately leading up to this. I think the current theory is he went in to verify his "targets" today having planned this up to now. At least that is what they said on the news.

You actually believe a disgruntled employee could convince 2 other people to get tactical vests, possible bombs, and assault rifles with the intent to kill people just because "work hurt my feelings!"? Beyond that, you actually believe these 2 other people would be willing to go along with it for months just because of that? lol

[Tarage]

Anyone got a live feed? KABC's dead.

[Salodin]

The only way I see that working is if it was consistent racial bias that the three of them grew tired of. They tried to run away, so maybe they thought they could get away with it which definitely doesn't discount the idea that there would be more then one person who would try to set this up. If you don't think you'll get caught for a crime, why not do it?

[Weltall]

The only way I see that working is if it was consistent racial bias that the three of them grew tired of. They tried to run away, so maybe they thought they could get away with it which definitely doesn't discount the idea that there would be more then one person who would try to set this up. If you don't think you'll get caught for a crime, why not do it?

People could get away with stealing all day long with almost no risk of getting caught and they do not steal.

[Minions]

You actually believe a disgruntled employee could convince 2 other people to get tactical vests, possible bombs, and assault rifles with the intent to kill people just because "work hurt my feelings!"? Beyond that, you actually believe these 2 other people would be willing to go along with it for months just because of that? lol

Considering it seems at least one of the people was related, sure? I'm not saying that is the only reason. I'm partial to them becoming radicals. I'm not saying that is the sole reason it was done, more that it was the way he chose his target for a plan they were already going to execute.

[Thunder]

You actually believe a disgruntled employee could convince 2 other people to get tactical vests, possible bombs, and assault rifles with the intent to kill people just because "work hurt my feelings!"? Beyond that, you actually believe these 2 other people would be willing to go along with it for months just because of that? lol

not a far stretch if we're talking what devout muslims could be capable of doing

[Weltall]

"Hey bro, my boss pissed me off."

"Did they fire you?"

"No, I'm still employed, but let's get together, talk Sally into it too, and buy some tactical vests and assault rifles to kill them."

"Sounds good!"

No. Muslim radicals, likely. Maybe the fact that they labeled it as a "Christmas" party put them over the edge!

[Salodin]

To update, the robot couldn't open up the bag. Now they got two people there going through the pack.

And people don't steal for many reasons, just like people don't kill other people for many reasons. That doesn't mean that people who have demonstrated they can and will kill other people don't think they wouldn't get away with it. From other terrorist attacks we've seen they plan for their death and generally stand there ground killing until they get rekt. These guys went on a wild goose chase until the very end, quite different imo.

[Minions]

To update, the robot couldn't open up the bag. Now they got two people there going through the pack.

And people don't steal for many reasons, just like people don't kill other people for many reasons. That doesn't mean that people who have demonstrated they can and will kill other people don't think they wouldn't get away with it. From other terrorist attacks we've seen they plan for their death and generally stand there ground killing until they get rekt. These guys went on a wild goose chase until the very end, quite different imo.

I still wonder why they were brazen enough to not ditch the vehicle.

[jmc]

I still wonder why they were brazen enough to not ditch the vehicle.

Stupidity?

[Outlaw]

Mass shootings are just business as usual in America now I guess. <sigh>

[Waraji]

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Welcome back.

[Enkidu]

These guys went on a wild goose chase until the very end, quite different imo.

Tsarnaev bro's? Religious fanaticism doesn't require suicide bombing and/or the expectation of death. The latter seems to be the case anyways, not like they gave up once caught...

That said, I wish they got caught unharmed. Now they're just martyrs to the other Islamic zealots from around the globe (and here).

[FNH]

The two suspects killed in the gunfight with police in the San Bernardino shooting were Syed Farook and Tashfeen Melik, said San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san...inkId=19260173

[6souls]

An earlier report from the Los Angeles Times said that Farook had married in the past six months. The Times said Farook had recently traveled to Saudi Arabia and came back to the U.S. with a wife that he had met online.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/tashfe...facebook-page/
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...&dlvrit=649324
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l....html#85215802

Meredith Davis, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said officials had "successfully traced" the four guns recovered in connection with the San Bernardino shooting and determined that two of the weapons were purchased legally.

The guns were bought by an individual associated with the investigation, Davis said but declined to name the person.

"Agents continue to investigate leads concerning the two additional firearms," Davis said.

Police officials said that two suspects, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, were armed with two assault rifles and two semiautomatic handguns.

The assault rifles were a .223-caliber DPMS Model A15 and a Smith and Wesson M&P15. The handguns were manufactured by Llama and Smith and Wesson, respectively.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l....html#85215941

[myreality]

You actually believe a disgruntled employee could convince 2 other people to get tactical vests, possible bombs, and assault rifles with the intent to kill people just because "work hurt my feelings!"? Beyond that, you actually believe these 2 other people would be willing to go along with it for months just because of that? lol

Possibility that they convinced themselves they could escape somehow. Only thing that comes to mind.

[Indalecia]

Stab in the dark but betting the M&P15 was prolly the 5.56 model.

Also, 2/4 legally purchased: this is gonna get fun.

[Wulfgang]

Stab in the dark but betting the M&P15 was prolly the 5.56 model.

Also, 2/4 legally purchased: this is gonna get fun.

Should probably increase the waiting limit by a half day; that should fix it.

[Salodin]

And it was a Saudi that did this. Where are the cries to stop letting Saudi immigrants in?