STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD (STAY THE FUCK OUT IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT)

[Cantih]

The whole starkiller thing was dumb imo. Probably one of the worst things about the movie, but still minor compared to be awesomeness of the rest of the film.

I don't really have a problem with that.
First Death Star was decades in the making (E2/3 to 4). The second one was well on the way in only a few years (E4-6). At that point, it's not beyond SoD that in another couple decades the concept could be pushed.
It's the Metal Gear thing, once the genie is out, things start getting out of control.

[Stilzkin]

I think they should have been more daring in the structure of the plot.

The events didn't feel new or interesting. They introduced new characters and just placed them into what I think is the plot most people think of when they think Star Wars (A New Hope).

The settings were good though, and the new characters seem likeable enough.

[Dantrag]

I think they just wanted to say "We're going to be like the originals, not the new ones, here's a huge homage to the original trilogy." And hoping that 8 and 9 do their own thing.

Also, Kylo seemed pretty damn strong with the force but def weak on the physical end. He was more of a "mage" Sith than a Warrior like Luke or Anakin.

[Kyreth]

The more I think about it, the more the biggest dumb thing in the movie was a shield that doesn't work vs ships going at lightspeed. Aside from the fact there's never been anything similar ever hinted at previously in star wars it was either a flaw or design choice, either way it was retarded and they should've just sent a few ships loaded with explosives...or even empty ships at lightspeed would've utterly wrecked that place.

Most cases, you'd have far too little space to bleed off speed after coming back into realspace to pull it off.

Or if you were ever so slightly off, you'd come back in and hit the shield.

Or worse, you'd end up pulled out by the gravity well and have no time to adjust before splattering/skipping off the planet in itty-bitty pieces. Or being pulled out of hyper IN little pieces due to the forced exit.

Only a fucking genius nutcase pilot like Solo could get away with jumping INTO a gravity well and survive the experience. He literally did it by feel, and that likely only because someone like Solo is actually familiar with being forced out of hyper by interdiction (which use an artificial gravity wave generator to disrupt hyperdrives). Even then, predicting precisely where you'd come in would have been impossible, and he came within meters of lithobraking fatally.

[Hirronimus]

I think they should have been more daring in the structure of the plot.

The events didn't feel new or interesting. They introduced new characters and just placed them into what I think is the plot most people think of when they think Star Wars (A New Hope).

The settings were good though, and the new characters seem likeable enough.

Obi-Wan: So, what I told you was true... from a certain point of view.
Luke: A certain point of view?
Obi-Wan: Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

[Kyreth]

TIE Fighters are actually quite good, even Poe commented on how fast they are.

Loved the movie. Legit teared up at the end from relief from my own cynicism and just the childhood memories and wonder the movie evoked in me that 4-6 had instilled.

Yeah. TIEs are incredibly maneuverable but fragile, although First Order models seem to at least have moderate structural improvements over the ANH-era models, likely because they're two-seaters. Not quite Interceptor-level models, though (which have shielding and the sloped-wing quad blasters rather than the dual centermount cannons).

[Kyreth]

Shes already signed on for Episode 8 and its confirmed Phasma is returning

They had Han Solo on the list for VIII as well, so take that as you will- it might well have been a spoiler-protection deal.

(After all, if Ford hadn't been signed on for VIII, people would have been guessing about his death before VII came along.)

[Kyreth]

Nit picky stuff, but in the novels between rotj and force awakens do we learn what happens to Luke hand?

When he lost it in the empire strikes back he got a new "fleshed robotic hand" but in force awakens he seems to have lost the flesh.

Probably from a battle between both movies but was just wondering

Makes you wonder if it got damaged again when the new Jedi were betrayed and he had to make another replacement.

Say, from scavenging parts from 3PO. It'd explain the piecemeal repairs he has in the movie, too.

[Cail]

Really loved the movie. If Poe isn't force sensitive he's probably the best natural pilot the SW universe has seen so far, that fight outside the bar was ridiculous.

WEDGE ANTILLES WOULD LIKE A WORD WITH YOU

[Kyreth]

WEDGE ANTILLES WOULD LIKE A WORD WITH YOU

Speaking of Wedge, I wonder how many old Rebellion pilots will come out of retirement now that the war's gone hot with the First Order?

We've seen Ackbar, after all. And Han was still flying.

[Hirronimus]

I'm reading Aftermath right now, which chronologically is 1 year after ROTJ, with Wedge as one of the main characters. He would be older than Luke's age during TFA, if alive at all. Not finished with the story yet, but even if he survives up to TFA time, chances of him being recast is probably slim. Check the IMDB page for Denis Lawson. For a 68 year old man, he looks grizzled enough to be a Resistance General. That could be a nice character addition. Lawson is actually Ewan McGregor's uncle.

[Vagrant]

With Wedge they actually wanted to use him but the actor wouldn't sign on for the movie if I remember right

[Dantrag]

Most cases, you'd have far too little space to bleed off speed after coming back into realspace to pull it off.

Or if you were ever so slightly off, you'd come back in and hit the shield.

Or worse, you'd end up pulled out by the gravity well and have no time to adjust before splattering/skipping off the planet in itty-bitty pieces. Or being pulled out of hyper IN little pieces due to the forced exit.

Only a fucking genius nutcase pilot like Solo could get away with jumping INTO a gravity well and survive the experience. He literally did it by feel, and that likely only because someone like Solo is actually familiar with being forced out of hyper by interdiction (which use an artificial gravity wave generator to disrupt hyperdrives). Even then, predicting precisely where you'd come in would have been impossible, and he came within meters of lithobraking fatally.

Scene reminded me of BSG when they took the Galactica out of FTL inside the atmosphere and then dropped all the pilots out of the carrier.

As far as lightspeed things the only thing that I thought was weird was going to LS INSIDE a ship. That was he one that bothered me more than getting out of LS near the surface of a planet.

[Anoat]

God I just gave myself goosebumps thinking about Rey's delivery of a possible line in Ep 8 (or 9)!

"I am a Jedi, like my father before me..."

They better do it. THEY BETTER.

[Alistaire]

Again this makes no sense, and youre retarded


*brutally stabbed through chest by son in moment he tries to help him begin redeeming himself*

"Hey guys can you believe they didnt show Han dying? I cant believe they killed such a major character off screen"

Don't forget how it's not even quite done after he's stabbed; there's a very long meaningful look from Han full of sorrow and regret before they pan out to him falling off the bridge. Great scene. Possibly the most significant well-played death scene other than Vader himself.

[Alistaire]

Most cases, you'd have far too little space to bleed off speed after coming back into realspace to pull it off.

Or if you were ever so slightly off, you'd come back in and hit the shield.

Or worse, you'd end up pulled out by the gravity well and have no time to adjust before splattering/skipping off the planet in itty-bitty pieces. Or being pulled out of hyper IN little pieces due to the forced exit.

Only a fucking genius nutcase pilot like Solo could get away with jumping INTO a gravity well and survive the experience. He literally did it by feel, and that likely only because someone like Solo is actually familiar with being forced out of hyper by interdiction (which use an artificial gravity wave generator to disrupt hyperdrives). Even then, predicting precisely where you'd come in would have been impossible, and he came within meters of lithobraking fatally.

You know I'm saying they should've kamikaze'd droid-piloted ships as bombs into the station, right? Basically, if you can do precise calculations to avoid stuff over very long distances, then parking right outside and calculating where to point ships manned by remote/droid to hit that weak spot or really any spot near the base should have easily done the trick.

edit: remember in age of ultron how just dropping a city from a certain height would've been a global cataclysmic event? Multiply that by a million. Precise aim or not that planet would've been rekt.

In the end you just go with "the movie didn't have the time to throw in another RotJ-esque shield disabling trip and they came up with something quick".

[Rulke]

God I just gave myself goosebumps thinking about Rey's delivery of a possible line in Ep 8 (or 9)!

"I am a Jedi, like my father before me..."

They better do it. THEY BETTER.

I second this.

[Alistaire]

I second this.

and my axe.

Also kinda wanna see Leia get some training and go nuts on Kylo. And now that I think of it, damn that trailer that hinted at Leia getting a lightsaber in this one.

[Hirronimus]

and my axe.

Also kinda wanna see Leia get some training and go nuts on Kylo. And now that I think of it, damn that trailer that hinted at Leia getting a lightsaber in this one.

In all honesty, I hope they phase Fisher out. Her performance was just flat. She felt more like Fisher than Leia in this movie. (And I realize you're probably being sarcastic)

[Alistaire]

Not exactly sarcasm, and yeah her performance wasn't the greatest. If it could be done well it'd be pretty awesome though. Wishful thinking.