EVO 2016 - FGC 2016 Season - Forget ducking

[Viq]

Has anyone found a decent VOD of the ESPN broadcast?

[Akiyama]

Aris is one person. Noel is one person. The throngs of boos from the melee crowd that ring out whenever something that isn't melee shows up onscreen, that's not one person. That's impossible to be one person.

And if we're talking about one person, then how about this Hyuga idiot. An eye for an eye... for an eye.

Of course it's not one person. That wasn't my point at all. My point was it's stupid to clump together part of the community that are total shitlords with the rest who aren't. That's why I brought up Noel and what Aris did in the past; people got so pissed when you put Noel together and acted like the whole FGC doesn't respect women and are scumbags, and how Kotaku covers the FGC only when bad shit happens. That's what's going on here to an extent, but it's whatever.

And ya, that Hyuga guy.. holy shit. That whole thing is just absolutely crazy. That'll teach him to get shitfaced drunk like that.

@Viq: I haven't yet, no. Think they reaired it again on ESPN3 along with some other esport shit, but I'm not sure. I'm sure it'll pop up somewhere.

[Lokus]

Has anyone found a decent VOD of the ESPN broadcast?

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2834908/

[Sho]

I don't mind if they leave en masse after their game is over. Just means I'm able to get better seats. It's when they start cheering over other games to their detriment and other shit is when it crosses the line.

Even though Melee people cleared out afterwards, they either trickled back in during SFV or were going for piss breaks because the arena started getting packed again. Think they also learned their lesson from CEO on not being a bunch of fucking twats to another game. Fucking up at EVO would probably kill their entire game.

This shit was annoying for me. The only reason why I didn't go to EVO this year as well as last year is because of the fact that Sunday was "sold out" -- I could have just gotten tickets for Friday/Saturday and snuck in that bitch come Sunday.

[Spider-Dan]

This shit was annoying for me. The only reason why I didn't go to EVO this year as well as last year is because of the fact that Sunday was "sold out" -- I could have just gotten tickets for Friday/Saturday and snuck in that bitch come Sunday.

No, you couldn't; Sunday this year was at a completely different venue with different tickets.

Friday/Saturday were at the Las Vegas Convention Center (?), Sunday was at Mandalay Bay.

Lol man I played MvC2 since the first day it released on arcade. I've beaten Amodt every NY pro in Chinatown Fair when it was the place to play. There are 4 chars and then good assists.

I mean, if you want to make that argument, fine, but if you are playing only top 4 then you will likely get your soul snatched by people who are playing some combination of those ten (and I forgot Iron Man who is stupid in current meta; Iron Man is basically the Firebrand+Skrull of MVC2 now).

MSS, Rowtron, and Cableguy are competent teams, but if you're going to tell me they are better than Duc's or Clockw0rk's teams, I'm going to disagree, and if you're going to say they are as good as Santhrax, Matrix, or MSP, then you're crazy.

I'm just tired of people saying that characters that are a critical part of a team somehow "don't count" in MVC2. Being able to actually play Cyclops, Commando, or Psylocke really matters and makes a significant difference, because you essentially have to play one of them.

[Viq]

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2834908/

I appreciate the link, but I need something that isn't region locked and/or doesn't require a log in with a cable provider. I live in a place where ESPN doesn't exist, and thus can not access anything on ESPNgo

[Nitsuki]

This shit was annoying for me. The only reason why I didn't go to EVO this year as well as last year is because of the fact that Sunday was "sold out" -- I could have just gotten tickets for Friday/Saturday and snuck in that bitch come Sunday.

I think this is the part that irked me, had i not competed and wanted to get a sunday only spectator ticket, it woulda been sold out because meleefags took half the arena. Hell even seats were empty during sf5. You don't just go to a WWE event like raw just to sit for 10 minutes because AJ styles or John Cena is wrestling, then leave because nothing else interests you, you wasted the ability for someone else to stay the 3 hours! Coulda watched it on TV if that's all you care about. That's pretty much the bad taste that the melee community left a lot of people. Just disrespectful, but call me OG, i woulda stayed for all the games and take the occasional pee break, even if they bore me. I call it respect for the game, and getting my money's worth.

[Weltall]

No, you couldn't; Sunday this year was at a completely different venue with different tickets.

Friday/Saturday were at the Las Vegas Convention Center (?), Sunday was at Mandalay Bay.


I mean, if you want to make that argument, fine, but if you are playing only top 4 then you will likely get your soul snatched by people who are playing some combination of those ten (and I forgot Iron Man who is stupid in current meta; Iron Man is basically the Firebrand+Skrull of MVC2 now).

MSS, Rowtron, and Cableguy are competent teams, but if you're going to tell me they are better than Duc's or Clockw0rk's teams, I'm going to disagree, and if you're going to say they are as good as Santhrax, Matrix, or MSP, then you're crazy.

I'm just tired of people saying that characters that are a critical part of a team somehow "don't count" in MVC2. Being able to actually play Cyclops, Commando, or Psylocke really matters and makes a significant difference, because you essentially have to play one of them.

I play MSP and pretty much only MSP for 15 years. I'm not going to argue with someone who likes MvC2 because finding those people in today's FGC is rare compared to people who accept the trash we have now.

Yes, you could say Rogue or Tron are "good" because a couple of people use them and made it far in tournaments, but they rarely if ever won a damn thing. Damn, now I'm getting flashbacks to when Blackheart was good lol.

[Krandor]

Juggernaut glitch 4 lyfe

[Spider-Dan]

I play MSP and pretty much only MSP for 15 years. I'm not going to argue with someone who likes MvC2 because finding those people in today's FGC is rare compared to people who accept the trash we have now.

Yes, you could say Rogue or Tron are "good" because a couple of people use them and made it far in tournaments, but they rarely if ever won a damn thing. Damn, now I'm getting flashbacks to when Blackheart was good lol.

Note that I didn't say Rogue or Tron, though. And nearly everyone who is any good plays Cyclops, Commando, or Psylocke, so it's not like they are niche cases.

I included Spiral because she has two world titles from Duc (which is more than Magneto, who only has the one win from Yipes) and I included Strider/Doom because I think Clock has done enough for long enough to warrant it... and I think most people would agree that Strider has some of the best matchups in the game, but has the (significant) drawback of near-zero margin of error.

I think Spiral and Strider are the two characters in the game that most exemplify the position of if you don't make mistakes, you WILL win (even if your opponent does the same). Honestly, I think Magneto is at the opposite end of the spectrum, where your entire gameplan is basically dependent on your opponent having poor defense. I think that's also a major reason why Magneto only has one Evo win ever.

[fantasticdan]

Damn, now I'm getting flashbacks to when Blackheart was good lol.

I remember when megaman with blackheart assist was considered cheap lmao

[Lucavi]

I think this is the part that irked me, had i not competed and wanted to get a sunday only spectator ticket, it woulda been sold out because meleefags took half the arena. Hell even seats were empty during sf5. You don't just go to a WWE event like raw just to sit for 10 minutes because AJ styles or John Cena is wrestling, then leave because nothing else interests you, you wasted the ability for someone else to stay the 3 hours! Coulda watched it on TV if that's all you care about. That's pretty much the bad taste that the melee community left a lot of people. Just disrespectful, but call me OG, i woulda stayed for all the games and take the occasional pee break, even if they bore me. I call it respect for the game, and getting my money's worth.

Brilliant point and its at the heart of why the smashers shouldn't be there if they're going to pull it in mass numbers. You're only treated as an individual until you're a part of a large group that replicates your actions.

[Krandor]

ESPN2 broadcast pulled in an average of 200k. So between that and the twitch numbers across various streams probably a good half million viewers.

[Taim Meich]

ESPN2 broadcast pulled in an average of 200k. So between that and the twitch numbers across various streams probably a good half million viewers.

Would that be considered decent/good for ESPN? Do you think they are satisfied with that? Not being from the US I cannot make a judgement on the TV audiences over there, but I'd love it if it was even a moderate success.

[Jefe]

Watched the espn2 thing and Seth always bringing the hype no matter the game... unless it's one of those party games pedos like to play :kappa:

[GoggleHead]

Does Seth actually do commentary outside of Evo? I swear it's the only event I see him show up at.

[Koul]

Would that be considered decent/good for ESPN? Do you think they are satisfied with that? Not being from the US I cannot make a judgement on the TV audiences over there, but I'd love it if it was even a moderate success.

I'd say that's pretty good considering esports is still kinda taboo, I guess I wanna say, and in particular fighting games. Even if it's not the number they were looking for the exposure to the mainstream world is great

[Krandor]

For an unproven commodity (fighting games on TV) it's quite good. Relatively comparable to other Esports stuff that gets shown on TV, and it was in a fairly awkward time slot and competing against Yankees vs Red Sox

[Callisto]

Would that be considered decent/good for ESPN? Do you think they are satisfied with that? Not being from the US I cannot make a judgement on the TV audiences over there, but I'd love it if it was even a moderate success.

It's very decent. Double what Heroes of the Dorm got and EPN2 has a much smaller average viewership base than the other channels that have previously aired esports content.

[Lucavi]

Would that be considered decent/good for ESPN? Do you think they are satisfied with that? Not being from the US I cannot make a judgement on the TV audiences over there, but I'd love it if it was even a moderate success.

Its the 3rd largest esport draw in the history of the channel as per SRK.com's article, so yes, it definitely proves there's a future there.

More of a future than goddamn darts and spelling bees.