Annihilator (Gun Control Thread- NOT SHOOTINGS)

[Zetanio]

His first gun was posted on TPB in 2013. It is still on there and on various other errant sites (I'm using errant instead of a no-no word)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun)

Related quotes:

Withdrawal of plans and The Something Bay hosting
Days after their publication, the United States Department of State's Office of Defense Trade Controls issued a letter to Defense Distributed demanding that it retract the Liberator plans from public availability.[13] The State Department justified this demand by asserting the right to regulate the flow of technical data related to arms, and its role in enforcing the Arms Export Control Act of 1976.

However, soon thereafter the design appeared on The Something Bay (TPB), which publicly stated its defense of the information. Quoted on ErrantFreak: "TPB has for close to 10 years been operating without taking down one single errant due to pressure from the outside. And it will never start doing that."[6]

The site would go on to issue a statement on its Facebook page:

So apparently there are some 3D prints of guns in the physibles section at TPB. Prints that the US government now claim ownership of. Our position is, as always, to not delete any errants as long as its contents are as stated in the errants description. Printable guns [are] a very serious matter that will be up for debate for a long time from now. We don't condone gun violence. We believe that the world needs less guns, not more of them. We believe however that these prints will stay on the internets regardless of blocks and censorship, since that's how the internets works. If there's a lunatic out there who wants to print guns to kill people, he or she will do it. With or without TPB. Better to have these prints out in the open internets (TPB) and up for peer review (the comment threads), than semi hidden in the darker parts of the internet.

— The Something Bay, May 10, 2013

[Zetanio]

The one that concerned me more are the instructions that Wilson made which automatically mills out functioning metal AR lowers and 1911 handguns if you have the right equipment.

I completely agree with this.

I think the reality is that you are not going to be able to stop this information from getting out, expanding, and propagating out into the world. It will evolve and people will be able to print their own guns in very little time, all over the world.

Thankfully, you still need metal casings for bullets, for now.

[Greatguardian]

My understanding back when the Liberator came out was that the weapons were largely novelties. Firing them could warp the plastic and make the weapon unusable.

[Zetanio]

It was basically a one-shot assassin's weapon.

[zoobernut]

My understanding back when the Liberator came out was that the weapons were largely novelties. Firing them could warp the plastic and make the weapon unusable.

Reading the article he created his own CNC mill for making the metal parts of the gun. The mill he is selling only costs $1,200 which is cheap when you consider what it can do. With that machine people can make metal ghost guns that are of very high quality easily and cheaply. Also because you can quickly buy template pieces of metal that are 80% complete gun parts you can finish the last 20% worth of milling in only a few hours. (all according to the article).

Wasn't there a comedy bit by Dave Chapelle about regulating ammo rather than guns? Can't easily print gun powder or other explosive substances.

[6souls]

Article was posted today referencing how the guy started giving out plans this past weekend. So...I am late because it's Tuesday, not Monday?

Because I posted about this on the 18th.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44871588

Justice Department to allow 3D printed guns be downloadable again August 1st after losing a 4-year court battle with a second amendment group.

Ghost guns for everyone!

[zoobernut]

The guy who made the cnc machine and the plans wants us to move into the guns for everyone wild west type situation.

[6souls]

Wasn't there a comedy bit by Dave Chapelle about regulating ammo rather than guns?

Chris Rock



Not all black comedians are Dave Chapelle.

[zoobernut]

Chris Rock



Not all black comedians are Dave Chapelle.

Fair enough. I couldn't remember which one. Thanks for posting the video.

[Zealot]

One of my favorite Eddie Murphy bits.

[NynJa]

I remember when DMX got into comedy, good times.

[Zetanio]

I really don't care for Richard Pryor.

[zoobernut]

Dammit people....

[arus2001]

*woofs at Arsenio*

[Zetanio]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-printed-guns

Good explanation of why 3D printing guns isn't much of a big deal.

You can make guns at home legally already. What's the difference here?

[zoobernut]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-printed-guns

Good explanation of why 3D printing guns isn't much of a big deal.

You can make guns at home legally already. What's the difference here?

That article fails to mention that it is far easier and far cheaper than it used to be. Someone can get a CNC machine and a 3d printer to make guns for less than $2k now. And the quality from those machines has gone up considerably too. They do make some good points but miss on that front.

[Zetanio]

Oh I don't mean the part about the industry not caring much. Just that it's not, in fact, illegal.

[dasva]

Oh I don't mean the part about the industry not caring much. Just that it's not, in fact, illegal.

I remember seeing a youtube video awhile back (don't think it's up anymore idk) of some dude making a working gun from a shovel in his backyard. I just can't wait till we can start printing up weapons for 10% of the price the military/police force pays for similar. Also print me up a goddamn tank!

[Fondue]

How you gonna protect urself from some froggy terries without one

[zoobernut]

Oh I don't mean the part about the industry not caring much. Just that it's not, in fact, illegal.

I don't think anyone ever thought it was illegal after the initial ruling just that it should be. Or maybe I am missing your point somehow?