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  1. #2201
    RNGesus
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    Speaking of summons. Should I bother honing any of these?

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    I like to eat food
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    Maybe Shiva if you'd like? I honed Phoenix once when it was new for the damage/revive capability. Could be useful in this Nightmare, but generally it just sits in my inventory.

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    Ridill
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    I'd say R5'ing Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh should be no issue for anyone after this orbfest. After that, Valefor and Maduin are no brainers.

    Past anything else, I think general consensus is that Quetz/Phoenix/Alex are situational and nice but not necessary. With how in demand Major orbs are across the board, (or to stock Greaters for 4* abilities) I don't see a whole lot of people building their teams around an A-lister summoner like you would a Thief or Knight for Raid or Cross. Bahamut's major orbs to me are better spent on getting R4 4* summons, etc.

  4. #2204
    RNGesus
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    Yeah I have Valefor and Maduin at R4 already.

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    I have Valefor at 5, Maduin Alex and Phoenix at 4

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    Gotta love when TR works well... did Phantom Train, TR did 4.8k x 5. Tasty Tasty Damage.

  7. #2207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Do you have a lot of mage relics?
    I definitely do not - I have something like 6 sticks total with 100 mag or more, and two of those are the basically synergyless books. I've coasted on spellblades so far but leaving my BLM options thin makes me nervous, like if the future holds the equivalents of high def seifer fights.

    I guess this was because I was thinking about making and honing jas, as the only 4* black magic I have are quake R1, ruinga R4 and waterja R4. I was mathing out mages recently under the assumption of 2k-3k resistances, and I actually liked their odds as long as there was an element weakness. But without a weakness and with no hairpin, even at 1k resist the -jas have issues. And if I'm using BLMs mainly to take advantage of elemental resist, making multiple of the same ja is really expensive compared to 3* spellblade copies.

    The other niche besides element weakness which I want to use mages for is AOE, but I think sammy, monk or dragoon are better until the summon buff hits.

    Anyway, you're probably right I shouldn't worry about it.

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    I haven't bothered much with summons; I have Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh at R5 but my only 4* are R2 Valefor and Carbuncle. I haven't even bothered making Maduin. I'm probably going to wait for the SMN buff before I make anything serious but why is everyone hot and heavy for both Valefor and Maduin? Aren't they both pretty equal now and when the buff hits(except for the orbs used)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auspice View Post
    I haven't bothered much with summons; I have Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh at R5 but my only 4* are R2 Valefor and Carbuncle. I haven't even bothered making Maduin. I'm probably going to wait for the SMN buff before I make anything serious but why is everyone hot and heavy for both Valefor and Maduin? Aren't they both pretty equal now and when the buff hits(except for the orbs used)?
    They're non-elemental, can't be resisted, and are far easier to hone than Bahamut/Odin.

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    Having 2 R4 AoE non-elemental summons is better than having 1 R5. Also, Maduin is cheaper to craft.

    Honestly, if you have Ruinga at R3+ (who doesn't?) and 1 of the 2 summons at R4, getting the second summon is probably irrelevant.

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    Egg rewards doubled for our efforts.

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    Greg's BSSB is 8 single target hits+ magic/physical taunt+large def. bonus. Burst commands still unknown. Faris BSSB is also reissued alongside her MC2. Bartz and Greg also see their MC2 released in an event with this so looks like we'll start seeing some MC2 return after this event.

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    Greg bssb info is out, Faris' MC2 is reissued in this event, so if they don't add it in HoR, we'll get it in this event. Greg bssb is 8x ST hits + blm/phys taunt. Banners got mega changed in setup, it is now 2 bssbs (Faris and Greg this case), ALL SSBs as regular relics (presuming drop rate went from 1 to 2%) and a regular SB item as the generic on the banner. Also banner 2 has Bartz bssb.

    So with SSBs now being the new SBs, new power tier incoming!!!

    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKee..._in_the_house/

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    Oh god I want that so bad.

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Hope/Locke/Bartz all 77, no idea who to use Nightmare MC2 on, so guess it will be time to level up some cores (mostly ranger and bard first since they get MC2 first)

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    Ugh...... jp ultimate for Greg event IS going to SUCK! It is a fight against BOTH Minotaur and Omniscent, so no magic (which means no heals) until you kill minotaur and you have to bring mages cause Omniscent will reset otherwise......... what sadist created this fight! ; ;

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    That sounds fun! I guess hybrids will dominate. Was planning to pull once on both Thief/Ninja and Knight banners but I'm gonna skip Thieves for Greg.

    Edit: Yay! Got my Welcome Pack finally!

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    Wow, decided to upgrade faris and noticed that the new 6 star thief ability is steal power/def, so maybe will be stackable with scream? Unless they pull a Rikku's Guardian Targe on it, but fuck yes for ability att/def debuff!!!

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    Test it If it works like certain other buffs then it does stack (and being 6* leads me to believe that's the case). However let's not forget that Scream alone puts you above the soft cap.

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    Got a welcome pack too, which is weird because they told me before I wasn't eligible.

    Whatever. Free 15 mythril for tactics.

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