Final Fantasy: Record Keeper 2016 Advancilate Twins

[Alkar]

I wouldn't say Lenna's first SB is crap. I've had some luck with using Mass Regen during times where I didn't need to drop a curaja immediately and helps keep people topped off while it's up. More useful than Royal Devotion which has never saved me from doing an S/L

I don't even count starting SBs. By first SB I meant Royal Devotion and it's indeed crap.

[Tyrath]

110 stamina from finishing dailies atm. Don't think its gonna happen lol

[Ratatapa]

yeah i need 60 stamina but going to best soon

Guess i'll do first stage of ++ then exit i'll do wednesday ++ next week

[Tyrath]

Since I wont be able to complete I'm gonna not start the last ++ and do leftover Relm instead.

[Kainos]

Anyone know how much mythril we get from tomorrow (thurs) till end of tactics (sat)?

Also rm farming is terrible. I leveled up all these characters from orb fest and can't get anyone's rm to drop

[Robertfb]

I know it's a dead horse at this point, but wanted to point out that someone posted a thread on Reddit about what DeNa should do to compensate for FFT and the thing people want is: All Money refunded, free 50 mythril, free % of mythril spent returned, revealed rates, rolling gacha, Official apology from DeNa.......... just....... wow.......... they should have added in a free relic of each on the banner as well >.>.

[theshun]

It funny to see all the one-star reviews in the app store are all posted during AND MENTION the FFT Banner.

[Moridam]

since i was the recipient of one of the weird off-banner valiant knives, locke has turned into my second A-team DD now. given that i never cleared any FF2 bonus stuff and i'm still working on some key hones for 4*, thief's revenge is a long ways off (strictly because of the MWO required, i have enough lightning/dark for R1 at least). what should i be looking at besides honing up a second copy of lifesiphon? the only broadly useful thing that i have on-hand right now is tempo flurry, which is nice but not always relevant. i'm assuming steal power doesn't stack with shout and so wouldn't be worth the orbs.

[Corwen]

Steal power could still be useful for the power breakdown effect, though due to the fact mobs have a very low attack soft cap (346) and that most high level fights feature attack values well past their soft cap, the mitigation offered by it is only about 15% I think it is unless you're able to triple stack attack debuffs to lower them below the soft cap for greater effect (i.e. steal power + full break + cleansing strike). The buff wont stack with shout, but since it is +50% atk, it won't gimp your shout buff either. Steal power doesn't inflict any damage, so if you are running shout and have a support that can fit power breakdown, that would be the better option.

To be honest though, assuming you plan to use lifesiphon, it probably doesn't matter too much what you bring in the other slot since you'll most likely just be spamming lifesiphon and SSB. You do have a few options for various situations such as dismissal, tempo flurry, stat breaks, intimidate, debuff busters, steal hp/defense/power, but for the most part, somebody else can fill those roles with more potent and/or more reliable versions of those skills (i.e. slowga, machinist debuffs, breakdowns, etc.)

[Robertfb]

New developments overnight, new abyss boss for jp is sanctuary keeper (FFX), abyss half pull is a Stat Break Relic halfpull (features relics with any stat breaks on it), Reddit is trying to rally one last pitchforking over Locke's SSB being added by mistake to banners and "cheating" loyal day 1 banner pullers, next fragment dungeon is Magus Sisters (FF4), and FFX-2 Paine is a 5 star mnk/blm (another Shantotto! And wtf DeNa, no spellblade!?).

Notable FFX-2 relics are Rikku RT 10 hit water dmg bssb + imperil water, Paine SSB is 7x random target earth/wind + hastega, Kimahri SSB which is 5x Single Target+ 1x aoe magic blink, and Braska robe SSB which is aoe 3x turn magic quickening (shorter magic casting) + med mag up (30%?) + large regen.

Edit: hmmm Sancturary Keeper isn't abyss, seems its just ult + for X-2, so debuff banner isn't abyss and is essentially another lucky banner in addition to abyss banner, so seems we're gonna get more lucky style banners in addition to abyss half pull banners down the road.

Edit2: man i'm tired, Paine isn't mnk/blm, it says Paine AND new mnk/blm 5 star ability being added, so unknown atm what Paine abilities/class are.

[Alkar]

Paine surely has Spellblade because her RMs boost spellblade damage

[Kirin]

Paine absolutely has to be some mix of Combat/Spellblade/Darkness. Those were her main roles in X-2, what Full Throttle was based around, and she would be X's first spellblader as well I believe.

[Alkar]

Yep, X has no spellblade users at all.
Edit: DeNA added Relm #2 banner relics to the daily draw before the banner was even released officially. I guess I should be happy that they've finally updated the daily after months but yeah.. lol.

[Kirin]

Yep, X has no spellblade users at all.
Edit: DeNA added Relm #2 banner relics to the daily draw before the banner was even released officially. I guess I should be happy that they've finally updated the daily after months but yeah.. lol.

Probably more to avoid the daily resetting and giving people a 2nd pull. Relm #2 should drop tonight, right?

[Demenic]

I'm conflicted with who I should set my RW to. I have Red with Lunatic High right now set, but I've been considering switching to Ramza with his Tailwind (don't have shout ) or Agrias with Hallowed Bolt or Cleansing Strike. Any suggestions? I know it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things, but I'm not sure about preference of the masses. I know I prefer using wall or damage RWs.

My friend code is "ejRi" if you don't have me on your list already.

[Alkar]

They've also lowered the chance of getting a 5* relic from the daily draw, now it's pretty much equal to JP except they get three draws a day for a slightly lower rate each.

[kuronosan]

Confirmed working as intended.

[Tyrath]

As if the rate wasn't low enough lol I've only ever gotten 1.

[Mertron]

that's one more than I've seen. never saw a 4 star either (yes I know the 4 star rate is/was lower)

[Moridam]

Steal power could still be useful for the power breakdown effect, though due to the fact mobs have a very low attack soft cap (346) and that most high level fights feature attack values well past their soft cap, the mitigation offered by it is only about 15% I think it is unless you're able to triple stack attack debuffs to lower them below the soft cap for greater effect (i.e. steal power + full break + cleansing strike). The buff wont stack with shout, but since it is +50% atk, it won't gimp your shout buff either. Steal power doesn't inflict any damage, so if you are running shout and have a support that can fit power breakdown, that would be the better option.

To be honest though, assuming you plan to use lifesiphon, it probably doesn't matter too much what you bring in the other slot since you'll most likely just be spamming lifesiphon and SSB. You do have a few options for various situations such as dismissal, tempo flurry, stat breaks, intimidate, debuff busters, steal hp/defense/power, but for the most part, somebody else can fill those roles with more potent and/or more reliable versions of those skills (i.e. slowga, machinist debuffs, breakdowns, etc.)

excellent, thanks for the info! mitigation-wise SP won't be a huge deal in most cases as i have a couple of break effects i can stack, but at any rate it's good to know it isn't a loss if shout gets overwritten. i forgot dismissal existed as well, don't have that made yet so that will probably be next on the list.