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  1. #2861
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classikmage View Post
    Holy shit, this double Gysahl campaign... I just for 5100 Gysahl total from a ++ daily, lol.
    Ya it's nice I got over 30k today using some mythril and purchased 3 shards. Ramsa and agrias at 80 and got relm to 65

    What is the general consensus on saints cross and dopelblade? I can make use of both since I have a few good knight relics and both shadow and thancred sb. But major power orbs are hard to come by, I just have r2 barrage and full break. I don't want to waste them and was thinking about exploding fist since I have tifa ssb

    Overall I'm pretty happy with how the anniversary came out. Think I'm sitting pretty till bsb fest but I might pull on whm nightmare banner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kainos View Post
    Ya it's nice I got over 30k today using some mythril and purchased 3 shards. Ramsa and agrias at 80 and got relm to 65

    What is the general consensus on saints cross and dopelblade? I can make use of both since I have a few good knight relics and both shadow and thancred sb. But major power orbs are hard to come by, I just have r2 barrage and full break. I don't want to waste them and was thinking about exploding fist since I have tifa ssb

    Overall I'm pretty happy with how the anniversary came out. Think I'm sitting pretty till bsb fest but I might pull on whm nightmare banner
    Saint Cross is an excellent skill that is usable by a lot of very good knights. Especially nice if you manage to snag Basch's platinum shield in the next FF12 event which boosts holy damage by 20%, but still very powerful without. Well worth the orb investment in my opinion.

    Doppelblade is rather weak in my opinion and is something I would advise not spending orbs on. Its damage multiplier is about 15% worse than other 5* AoE physical skills such as flashing blade and sky grinder (after taking it's crit bonus into consideration), sap isnt a very common vulnerability on endgame bosses, and the proc rate of sap is rather low to to boot (~25%), not to mention, there aren't very many good characters capable of 5* ninja. If you need a sap proc, shadowsteel is much more accessible.

    Exploding fist is decent, it comes in about 5% worse in terms of damage than saint cross after taking the crit modifier into consideration, but it's more difficult to make monks serviceable in various realms due to their weapon selection, aside from Jecht who is capable of wielding swords. The good news is, if you go for saint cross, exploding fist uses completely different orbs so theres no competition between the two skills, though plenty of other skills use power orbs such as full charge, so thats something to keep in mind.

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    Kk thx
    Gona r2 sc and shatter dB in that case

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    If you're using Exploding Fist try to use MNK weapons on those characters (unless the attack difference is huge) because apparently those weapons have a higher crit rate compared to normal ones thus boosting the overall effectiveness of the skill.
    So if you happen to pull a lot of 5* fists from different realms it's a good investment and soon enough we'll get SBs that boost crit %.

  5. #2865
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Yay free mythril for hall of rites

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    Still wondering if this "free mythril" was really just to pacify the moderates in the whole FFT fiasco.

  7. #2867
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    Still wondering if this "free mythril" was really just to pacify the moderates in the whole FFT fiasco.
    I think with how big of a deal the FFT banner became, they would have to address it directly to placate the lingering animosity and distrust. That wasn't something that can be dealt with by giving us 2-3 mythril for back door issues.

    That said, DeNa has been more generous with giving out "freebies" for minor issues over the past few weeks. While not a direct response to the Tactics banner, perhaps they are starting to change some internal practices to make it more user friendly like the JP version.

    Just as an aside, does anyone not like the ++ dailies? The greater increase in rewards was nice, but using 60 stamina compared to 90 just felt so much 'cleaner'. 480 stamina in a day at 60 stamina a pop meant 8 even runs, or 3 full stamina bars at ~160 max stamina. Using 90 nets us at 5.33 runs per day and that just feels so off and (literally) uneven.

    I did get Agrias and Hope to 80, Ramza still at 78. With the influx of new 80's to level, I really don't know where to begin since the only new weapon I've gotten since Tactics was Celes's Runic Blade for Spinning Edge. May have to prioritize her.

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    Personally I only like ++ for the sole purpose of burning stamina faster.

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    ++ probably better for greens and exp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    ++ probably better for greens and exp.
    ++ is better for everything that matters.

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    Hoping Tuesday ++ won't suck as much as +

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    HEAT RAY SPAM INCOMING

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    Please tell me those dragons aren't there... they already had abnormally high HP even on +.

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    I got hit by Meteor so lol that was hilarious. Thankfully I shelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    I think with how big of a deal the FFT banner became, they would have to address it directly to placate the lingering animosity and distrust. That wasn't something that can be dealt with by giving us 2-3 mythril for back door issues.

    That said, DeNa has been more generous with giving out "freebies" for minor issues over the past few weeks. While not a direct response to the Tactics banner, perhaps they are starting to change some internal practices to make it more user friendly like the JP version.

    Just as an aside, does anyone not like the ++ dailies? The greater increase in rewards was nice, but using 60 stamina compared to 90 just felt so much 'cleaner'. 480 stamina in a day at 60 stamina a pop meant 8 even runs, or 3 full stamina bars at ~160 max stamina. Using 90 nets us at 5.33 runs per day and that just feels so off and (literally) uneven.

    I did get Agrias and Hope to 80, Ramza still at 78. With the influx of new 80's to level, I really don't know where to begin since the only new weapon I've gotten since Tactics was Celes's Runic Blade for Spinning Edge. May have to prioritize her.
    The thing is, they owe us NOTHING! For what they did, mobile companies DO this all the time! Why do you think Japan put regulations on Gacha mobile games? The reason it blew up so much is most NA players haven't experienced this UNTIL FFT, whereas other players of jp gacha games already experienced this. Granblue Fantasy scandal anyone? Someone spent 6k on a 3% character drop rate!

    If you want DeNa to not do FFT again, don't write to them, write to your senator/congressman and help get mobile gaming regulated.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4duJdeKTwHY

  16. #2876
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
    Eleven owes me $40 bucks

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    It wasn't even really a gacha here... you still had the same rate on getting a 5* and getting a SSB as Japan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    It wasn't even really a gacha here... you still had the same rate on getting a 5* and getting a SSB as Japan...
    Gacha games are games where you "roll" for a chance at rare, powerful gear/item/character, so whether the rate is 1% or 50%, its a Gacha game.

    I think this game is pretty generous tbh for F2P/small spender players with a 13% rate at, not even that needed, rare equipment, there are worse Gacha games out there, there are games like Granblue that "require" the 3% drop rate characters to do the most extreme content and only get a "boosted rate" of 6% every 2 months (only had experience with Granblue, so might be even more generous Gacha games).

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    I think the game's generosity is great in terms of providing the materials needed for pulls and reducing the need to spend money. The allure of the newer, more powerful gear is what is there to go "time to spend money!"

    My issue with DeNA is knowingly taking advantage of a major, anticipated event in order to make extra money off of whalers (and boy did they).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    I think the game's generosity is great in terms of providing the materials needed for pulls and reducing the need to spend money. The allure of the newer, more powerful gear is what is there to go "time to spend money!"

    My issue with DeNA is knowingly taking advantage of a major, anticipated event in order to make extra money off of whalers (and boy did they).
    How did they though? People were pulling on FFT predominately for one item: Platinum Sword, an item who's % was not changed from JP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    How did they though? People were pulling on FFT predominately for one item: Platinum Sword, an item who's % was not changed from JP.
    You must not have been following this at all. The 3 SB items (Kaiser Shield, Grand Armor, Nu Khai) were what made the banner into as anticipated as it was because the Platinum Sword wasn't the ONLY largely desirable item on there (which is why some people stayed away from Cloud's BSSB first banner.) Slashing the rate of those 3 items in half made you get 3% more generally undesirable trash (Enjoy your Emerald, Genji, Golden Shields.) and 3% less of a potentially good item.

    As for generousity goes, FFRK is absolutely ruthless and so far from generous as if the latest incident hasn't demonstrated that enough. I started playing the new KH recently and when you compare it to KH: Unchained Chi, you can see really how much better things could be, while also providing substantial bonuses for people to want to spend money.

    There's really no comparison to the two; KH is much more generous both to F2P and P2P. KH allows a once a week purchase of 3000 jewels for half the price (3000 jewels is the cost for a 10 pull there and it would cost the same $30 before the 1/2 price discount) and in addition to that once a week purchase (if you desire it), they unlock all of the daily dungeons for the entire week for you so that you can do whatever ones you want. FFRK could easily do the same exact thing as that, but do they? Nope.

    In addition to that, KH also has a daily pull deal that costs 600 jewels for a 3 pull (which would normally cost 900 jewels) and you can do that once per DAY if you want. FFRK could also easily do this as well, but they won't.

    KH only has one form of currency whether you purchase it or earn it in game if that's needed to clarify things, but yeah... real eye opener on how much better things could be if DeNA was more generous.

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