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  1. #301
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    I think the reason -ga strikes are less in demand than -ja spells is because GPO's are used far more frequently and melees also tend to have way more options to equip than mages.

    I rarely find myself equipping -ga (or even -ra) strikes now. Lifesiphon + Drain Strike is typically what my spellblades carry. The only time I'm going to differ from that is to hit elemental weaknesses. And I should note that I use spellblades religiously, I seriously take 2-3 to virtually everything.

    I wouldn't break them down but I wouldn't hone them either. The only exception would possibly be if you have an elemental enhancing weapon/accessory, then it might be worthwhile to hone the relevant -ga as even unbuffed it's going to wreck shit.

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    Having lunatic high and SG, I mostly just throw mages at shit.

    I even have red XIII's mage relic, so if I don't need 2 support abilities, I can support and deal some damage on him too (I usually only do this with elemental weakness since the dmg is shit on his MAG weapon and I use SB RM instead of MAG)

    I can't recall the last time I had 2 spellblade users out at once

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    I'm torn between doing a 11-pull and bite the bullet with whatever results may come. Or do 1-pull and up to 3 3-pulls with hopes that I get lucky on the first 2 and save a few.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKee...s_to_5_then_4/

    apparently it's more orb economical to convert 3* to 5* then back to 4* instead of doing 3* to 4*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    So it looks like, if you are planning to convert 3* to 4*, it's cheaper to go to 5* first and then convert those to 4* lol...
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKee...s_to_5_then_4/

    apparently it's more orb economical to convert 3* to 5* then back to 4* instead of doing 3* to 4*.
    Thanks Valisk!

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    In my defense, I listed my sources! From Reddit!

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    I had the relevant bits quoted!

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    can someone make an FFRK post icon logo for me, I havent been able to come up with something I like, just needs to be 60x24

    thanks in advance

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    CloudKeeper incoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    CloudKeeper incoming.
    i have organics and rarely use him lol

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    whatever, r5 valefor and r5 maduin, and r5 shiva ifrit and ramuh. I already had all -ja spells to r4 and just made curaja r5 yesterday.

    i am also almost out of power orbs of all kinds entirely (second r4 dismissal, r4 lifesiphon, some other stuff), however I feel like I have nothing to hone or create for now at all so whatevs (I should be fine to hone upcoming new abilities)

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    Don't toss those 3* summons btw, you'll need them for Neo Bahamut (Shiva at least, we do have better options for fire/thunder if you're willing to hone more 4* summons but it shouldn't be necessary).

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    When the fuck is DU18 coming?

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    Should be in a few days I think since I thought the last DU said the next one was coming mid January, maybe it was end of January. This is the last DU that should come 2 weeks from the last one. This is the point where JP started to get them only once a month. Probably because the Dev team had to start working on the Abyss Dungeon mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa View Post
    can someone make an FFRK post icon logo for me, I havent been able to come up with something I like, just needs to be 60x24

    thanks in advance

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    I actually kinda like that.

    Edit, this too:


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    Finally got into breaking and honing since Bart finally kissed my ass.

    R5 Curaja
    Fire/Thunder/Blizzard/Water-ja are already R4

    Trying to think about what next. Bioga and Darkra? Probably wait on -ga Spellblades like people have mentioned until I need them. Used a lot of my greater blacks on the elemental -ja spells.

    Maduin and Quetz I think are the next options for damage summons. Ifrit/Shiva/Ramuh/Valefor are already R4. Maybe look at Samurai/Ninja/Knight abilities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Having lunatic high and SG, I mostly just throw mages at shit.

    I even have red XIII's mage relic, so if I don't need 2 support abilities, I can support and deal some damage on him too (I usually only do this with elemental weakness since the dmg is shit on his MAG weapon and I use SB RM instead of MAG)

    I can't recall the last time I had 2 spellblade users out at once
    I'm the complete opposite. I have native LH + Boon (but not a wall). I have plenty of mage relics (like 7 or something) but I still go melee heavy to everything. I have never tried to Mage Meta any fight except for the Sleep + Fire it to death one.

    Usually my party composition is:

    2 from - Lightning, Bartz, Cloud, Squall (Usually always Lightning / Bartz nowadays)
    Sazh or Red
    Aerith as Healer
    Final Slot - Either the character they force on us. If it's nobody then just a character I like (which may even be a 3rd spellblade)

    Not struggled to clear any content in a long-time. Can't even remember the last time I had to S/L more than a couple of times. All the ultimates I've cleared in less than 3 resets (Bart and Exdeath needed no resets).

    It doesn't seem to be a popular approach but I have no idea why as it needs a lot less abilities / hones. Although I guess it is heavily helped by me having native PP and Boon/LH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerin View Post
    Should be in a few days I think since I thought the last DU said the next one was coming mid January, maybe it was end of January. This is the last DU that should come 2 weeks from the last one. This is the point where JP started to get them only once a month. Probably because the Dev team had to start working on the Abyss Dungeon mechanics.
    I don't think we're gonna slow down just yet. The whole point of getting these dungeons out (and skipping certain events) is to catch up to JP, wouldn't make much sense a slower dungeon release at this point. Japan's dungeon updates are still stuck around 140 Elite difficulty anyway, shouldn't have issues clearing stuff.

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    What reason is there to catch up to JP? I don't think they're skipping most of the collab events because they're trying to catch up to JP, it's because they don't think their global audience would be all that interested in them. Especially since it costs money to localize and they have to pay the 3rd party companies to use references to their games. The DU's will slow down to once a month sooner or later. After this one makes the most sense to me since they can market it as, "Oh hey, DU's may be slowing down, but it's because we're making this awesome new content for you called Abyss." It's also the same time that Japan's DU's slowed down.

    You could argue though that DU 19 took place a little farther away (5 weeks) because of the 1 year anniversary and we won't be there until march. So we might not see a slow down until then.

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