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  1. #3541
    Daniel Rand
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    Has jp had a Xi banner yet?

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    Only XI character available in JP so far is Shantotto, and she had an SSB on one of the dissidia banners

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    Yep. Also her crystals were exclusive to the Dissidia collab.

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    New abilities from the X event are "Shooter" abilities: 4* is AoE water damage and 5* is 2-hit single target water damage. Both are physical and both get their damage increased by using ranged weapons. Boooring, weren't spellblades enough

    Shooter 4
    Edge
    Shadow
    Yuffie
    Rikku
    Hunter (Core)
    Ninja (Core)

    Shooter 5
    Wol
    Firion
    Maria
    Refia
    Rosa
    Faris
    Vincent
    Irvine
    Amarant
    Tidus
    Wakka
    Jecht
    Fran
    Serah
    Tyro

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    Still no blue magic) :

  6. #3546
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    New abilities from the X event are "Shooter" abilities: 4* is AoE water damage and 5* is 2-hit single target water damage. Both are physical and both get their damage increased by using ranged weapons. Boooring, weren't spellblades enough

    Shooter 4
    Edge
    Shadow
    Yuffie
    Rikku
    Hunter (Core)
    Ninja (Core)

    Shooter 5
    Wol
    Firion
    Maria
    Refia
    Rosa
    Faris
    Vincent
    Irvine
    Amarant
    Tidus
    Wakka
    Jecht
    Fran
    Serah
    Tyro
    Booooo

  7. #3547
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    So.. I have enough Major Non Elemental Orbs now to upgrade Dark Zone from 1 to 2. I'm really liking Kuja's place as a magic person in my party with Momento Mori + Dark Zone, is ranking it up to 2 worth it? I'm not sure what the other orbs are really used for.

    I need 7 more holy orbs til I can rank up Saint's Cross. Want to real bad for Agrias/Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    So.. I have enough Major Non Elemental Orbs now to upgrade Dark Zone from 1 to 2. I'm really liking Kuja's place as a magic person in my party with Momento Mori + Dark Zone, is ranking it up to 2 worth it? I'm not sure what the other orbs are really used for.

    I need 7 more holy orbs til I can rank up Saint's Cross. Want to real bad for Agrias/Greg.
    It's really only worth it if you have Endark on Kuja, if not, i'd say hold off on R2ing it.

  9. #3549
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    I disagree. I don't have Endark on Kuja and I still did excellent damage with it on U+. If I remember correctly it was around 8000-9000 damage per hit with Memento Mori. Endark is definitely not needed even if it helps. I thought it wouldn't do a lot of damage at all but wanted to try anyway and was pleasantly surprised by its damage.

    I'd say go for it, it's an excellent skill and well worth having at R2. Very few things resist Dark (although very few are weak to it too). It's imo by far the best single-target magic until Meltdown and Chain-ga's which are still quite a ways off. And even though Meltdown outperforms it, it is a lot harder to hone being a 6* ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    I disagree. I don't have Endark on Kuja and I still did excellent damage with it on U+. If I remember correctly it was around 8000-9000 damage per hit with Memento Mori. Endark is definitely not needed even if it helps. I thought it wouldn't do a lot of damage at all but wanted to try anyway and was pleasantly surprised by its damage.

    I'd say go for it, it's an excellent skill and well worth having at R2. Very few things resist Dark (although very few are weak to it too). It's imo by far the best single-target damage magic until Meltdown and Chain-ga's which are still quite a ways off.
    That's because Steiner is weak to dark, Endark will help alot for not weak mobs

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    Steiner is U, not U+. On Steiner it capped at 9999 even without Memento Mori.

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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    nvm i read U my bad

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    I R3'd mine just because I never see myself using Bahamut. Only real flaw with DZ that I otherwise see is that its Darkness classification means RMs like Witch of Succession and Blood of the Espers won't work with it. This means either using Kuja's RM2 or older stuff like Devotion, etc., whichever winds up mathematically superior. For single mob zergs, it's probably gonna wind up more reliable than Meteor, the weaknesses and hones may make it a harder argument against T4s. I imagine we'll get some Darkness specialized RM eventually, though, with the way they've basically been doing it with everything else.

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    Devotion = +20% MAG = ~+35% magic damage, and the next best things clock in at 20% damage increase (kuja RM2, attunement 2 with weakness, etc), so that should be the go-to for a solo magic user in party assuming not damage capped.

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    Considering the upcoming SMN Nightmare dungeon, I'm debating whether to make Bahamut or Maduin.

    For reference, sitting on:

    80 GSO
    54 MSO

    38 GNO
    39 MNO

    44 GDO
    22 MDO

    R2 Thief's Revenge
    R2 Dark Zone (Kuja capped with both relics)
    R3 Meteor
    R5 Valefor

    Thoughts/Suggestions?

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    Yeah, I run with Devotion on my DZ user.

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    Barrett's gun arms are long ranged, correct? Even stuff like Atomic Scissors?

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    Yep, along with the lower attack ratings to go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvinho View Post
    Considering the upcoming SMN Nightmare dungeon, I'm debating whether to make Bahamut or Maduin.

    For reference, sitting on:

    80 GSO
    54 MSO

    38 GNO
    39 MNO

    44 GDO
    22 MDO

    R2 Thief's Revenge
    R2 Dark Zone (Kuja capped with both relics)
    R3 Meteor
    R5 Valefor

    Thoughts/Suggestions?
    I'd say bahamut, if you can r3 is almost a guaranteed 60k in 3 turns. Manduin is great but you have r3 meteor and most smn carry blm5*. Imo Bahamat is really good

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    ...Shooter?
    Anyway, I'm looking forward to new skills for Rosa! Between that and blm stuff I better save up...

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