Final Fantasy: Record Keeper 2016 Advancilate Twins

[Robertfb]

can I just ask, am I the only person who has: blown all his mythril on a banner, not gotten what he wanted, felt like quitting, then came back an hour later like "well I guess I'll keep playing >_>"

no more heavy pulls on realm banners for me, at least not until I've got some better SBs. seems like lucky banners and special banners (double BSB anyone?) are a better use of my mythril for now.

You're not the first and certainly not the last who has whaled away on a Waifu banner and gotten jack shit and felt like crap, we've all been at the point where we feel like quitting when its a bad streak of luck (I went through that everyday with my JP acct when I kept pulling the worst SBs from every banner I pulled). Just keep playing with the idea that eventually your luck will turn around and you'll eventually get something good to make up for the bad streak of luck.

[Ratatapa]

Am I crazy for bailing on this phase of orb fest to do the XII event today?

Everyone logicly does XII in Orb P2 cuz it's the weakest

But Orb P3 that starts tonight is the strongest phase, so make sure you don't skip P3

[Kirbyprime]

I think that's what a quite a few people did. Do the FFXII event that is. Rather do it now than phase 3 after all...

[Yuri-G]

You're not the first and certainly not the last who has whaled away on a Waifu banner and gotten jack shit and felt like crap, we've all been at the point where we feel like quitting when its a bad streak of luck (I went through that everyday with my JP acct when I kept pulling the worst SBs from every banner I pulled). Just keep playing with the idea that eventually your luck will turn around and you'll eventually get something good to make up for the bad streak of luck.

thanks man. I appreciate your response it helps me put things in perspective. I've played enough gacha games to know that whaling for Fran's bow was not going to end well. I can't blame anyone but myself lol.


regardless I think you are right - keep playing, enjoy the game, and don't worry too much about bad pulls. it will even out in the end. the reality is, I can always find a way to use Fran regardless of relics. except right now because she's level 65 with no MC2 and no lodes >_>

[Kirbyprime]

I spent 580?ish mythril on the first FFT banner without getting a SSB. XD <.< if that makes you feel better...

[Yuri-G]

I spent 580?ish mythril on the first FFT banner without getting a SSB. XD <.< if that makes you feel better...

it makes me feel better but also really sad for you lol. that's awful


I heard there was some drama around that banner tho. something about rates not being the same between JP and NA

[Robertfb]

it makes me feel better but also really sad for you lol. that's awful


I heard there was some drama around that banner tho. something about rates not being the same between JP and NA

People felt they were "cheated" because Dena lowered the JP drop rate of the banner to 1% per relic instead of the usual 2%, making the banner on par with Fest banners instead of regular banners.

Edit: Also idk if you've ever heard of OWA Girl, but long ago when Sephiroth's OWA relic came out, someone spent all the mythril they saved up since starting the game, roughly 700-800 mythril to get it and ended up not getting it and rage quitting the game.

[kuronosan]

That's why guaranteed soul breaks will be great. At least you get a 5* no matter what.

[Mertron]

until that 5* turns out to be an off-banner generic!

[Yuri-G]

apparently the guaranteed 5* is pulled from the entire 5* pool o.O so that dilutes things a bit. better than nothing, although someone pointed out that it makes getting an on-banner 5* slightly less likely. I tried to verify that and the my brain exploded from the maths, but I think he was correct.

[Robertfb]

Thats why I said before, don't count on 100% 5* to turn your pulls into Tyrath level, its the same thing with Rolling Gacha and everyone thinks it'll magically make god pulls when it doesn't.

[Kirbyprime]

Hummm... think r3 TR is worth it? I'm somewhat hesitant to upgrade since it uses dark and wind orbs. Also, the damage is weaker than SC and FC and what not. Only annoying thing right now is when I use TR + PC combo, I run out of charges too fast and my thief ends up being dead weight.

[Corwen]

apparently the guaranteed 5* is pulled from the entire 5* pool o.O so that dilutes things a bit. better than nothing, although someone pointed out that it makes getting an on-banner 5* slightly less likely. I tried to verify that and the my brain exploded from the maths, but I think he was correct.

The guaranteed 5* seems to have the same odds of being an off-banner item as any other 5* pulled from what I've seen (~1 in 14, based on the usual JP rate of 14% 5-6* with 1% of that being off-banner items)

[synistar]

Full Charge is still than TR. Only reason TR would be good for a fight is when the boss dishes out damage and you want to relieve your healer of another target to top off or if you have other things to level up with Power Orbs (Powerchain, Full Break, Exploding fist now. Future skills Meteor Crush & Hailstorm/Frigid Blade.)

[Corwen]

Hummm... think r3 TR is worth it? I'm somewhat hesitant to upgrade since it uses dark and wind orbs. Also, the damage is weaker than SC and FC and what not. Only annoying thing right now is when I use TR + PC combo, I run out of charges too fast and my thief ends up being dead weight.

The multiplier on TR is actually slightly higher than SC (3.5 vs 3.4) assuming 170 SPD, but loses ground for the fact theres no damage boost gear or attach element effect that will boost TR. The fact that it drains HP is also quite valuable in high level fights, as that person can stay healed while dealing good damage, and your healer can focus on keeping the other 4 alive.

That said, it does use 3 valuable orb types, including the highly sought after wind orbs as its primary. For cid mission purposes, it conflicts with full charge, dark zone, and saint cross and I would personally rank it lower in priority than those 3.

[Alkar]

apparently the guaranteed 5* is pulled from the entire 5* pool o.O so that dilutes things a bit. better than nothing, although someone pointed out that it makes getting an on-banner 5* slightly less likely. I tried to verify that and the my brain exploded from the maths, but I think he was correct.

It's not but every banner (except for Luckys) have a chance at off-banner relics, the rate is the same as pulling normally though so there's that. I can tell you that I've pulled only 1 or 2 off-banner relics since its release 3-4 months ago.

[Yuri-G]

It's not but every banner (except for Luckys) have a chance at off-banner relics, the rate is the same as pulling normally though so there's that. I can tell you that I've pulled only 1 or 2 off-banner relics since its release 3-4 months ago.

ah ok, then I was misinformed. that's good to know at least

[Kirbyprime]

The multiplier on TR is actually slightly higher than SC (3.5 vs 3.4) assuming 170 SPD, but loses ground for the fact theres no damage boost gear or attach element effect that will boost TR. The fact that it drains HP is also quite valuable in high level fights, as that person can stay healed while dealing good damage, and your healer can focus on keeping the other 4 alive.

That said, it does use 3 valuable orb types, including the highly sought after wind orbs as its primary. For cid mission purposes, it conflicts with full charge, dark zone, and saint cross and I would personally rank it lower in priority than those 3.

Humm... yeah... I have r3 SC and r3 DZ already which was why I was debating r3 TR. But so far in fights where my SC would do around 16-17k damage, TR would only do 10-13k. I suppose the life steal and elemental bonuses should factor into it more, I'm just annoyed when # are lower.

[Rooney]

That said, it does use 3 valuable orb types, including the highly sought after wind orbs as its primary. For cid mission purposes, it conflicts with full charge, dark zone, and saint cross and I would personally rank it lower in priority than those 3.

I'm the exact opposite. For me the only conflict is between TR and SC. I take thieves more often than knights, but even so I still haven't honed TR.

[kuronosan]

A natural 5*, even not unique, is better than limitless garbage.