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  1. #5561
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    I really want WOLs 12 hit thing because I really just... do... but its not worth the Mythril for a realm that gets like... negative events.

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    Ridill
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  3. #5563
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    So wait, Quistis of all people gets to ram a train into people but Sabin just gets weak ass wind blade bullshit?

    C'mon DeNa.

  4. #5564
    BG Medical's Student of Medicine
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    Fuck yea Waifu.

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    Ridill
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    Sabin doesn't have an OSB yet Not sure why they keep giving summon SBs to Quistis and refuse to let her actually use summons lol. At least she's getting the weird/ gimmicky ones so far.

  6. #5566
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hada View Post
    We must have gotten it though. I just tested it and I was getting the +50% damage from en-wind. I tested it multiple times just to make sure that I had all the same buff/debuffs up.

    With en-wind:
    Spoiler: show


    Without en-wind:
    Spoiler: show


    And jfc, that was probably the worst boss I could have tested it on... So many S/L's to get those screenshots.
    I believe the difference is that if you used it on a mob that was weak to both elements, on global, it would always default to the first element, even if you have boosts for the second element. In JP, after the update, it will always pick the element that would end up doing the most damage.

  7. #5567
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    Just checked because I wasn't sure and the command is wind/water so it defaults to wind if there's no weakness or resistance. In this case it works for Bartz because that's the default, we haven't received the update in Global just yet.

  8. #5568
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Just checked because I wasn't sure and the command is wind/water so it defaults to wind if there's no weakness or resistance. In this case it works for Bartz because that's the default, we haven't received the update in Global just yet.
    So, all I proved is that wind is the default... GG me.

    That makes me wonder, is the first element listed the always default element then?

  9. #5569
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hada View Post
    So, all I proved is that wind is the default... GG me.

    That makes me wonder, is the first element listed the always default element then?
    Yes, the first element listed is the default and will be used in cases where the resistance values are equal for both elements. Unless the mob has a water weakness or resistance to wind, using water boosts will have no effect on a wind/water attack as it will use wind. This has been improved in JP to consider elemental boost gear and buffs and picking whichever would yield more damage, but this is not in effect in global yet I don't think.

  10. #5570
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    Very late reply but thanks for the suggestions on 5*. Looks like I'll be going with Saints Cross. Assuming by things like Enholy/Light damage buffs for the bigger hits from records which I do have.

    I heard the mention of having Multi-Break honed with Full Break. Why is that?
    Also, for boss content is it better to use the SB increase records like Ace Striker/Battleforged than 20%+ specific weapon damage?

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    Assuming you are using lifesiphon, ace is optimal for damage output if you are using single target SSB or using an AoE SB/SSB vs a multi target boss, and weapon damage wins out on AoE SSB vs 1 target or normal SB on a single target.

    As for honing both full break and multi break, multi break is useful for AoE situations or ones where you want to avoid being countered as multi break wont trigger counters while full break can be countered by anything that counters physical attacks. The vast majority of the time full break is best since it deals damage and most bosses are single mob fights.

  12. #5572
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    Multi-break is usually better than full break for content that have several targets at once due to being AoE.

    It is entirely situational. Battleforge is really good if you have strong SB:'s or for someone you want to build SB fast (Ramza with Shout and AoE heal for example). +20% weapon damage is best if you are close to attack cap. Otherwise +atk% is better.

    For example, I usually run Self Sacrifice on Lightning for Full Break spam unless under synergy, in which case +%weapon damage. Battleforge on Gilgamesh since SC usually caps anyway and his AoE Regen helps, then mog/mako on Ramza and Faris so they can start with Shout or BSB.

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    ATK soft cap in JP is now ~700, needing 467 atk + shout to reach, or 360 + shout + 30% buff. Finally my OSBs can knock off 6% of a level 200 boss's health instead of 5%.

  14. #5574
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Different banners


















    (BSB fest at the end of september)








    Expected QOL buffs

    Celes Knight 5
    Firion ATK/DEF/SPD up
    Firion gains Katana/Hammers/Fists/Rods
    Firion gains Samurai 5
    Maria MAG up
    Maria gains Swords
    Minwu MND up
    Minwu gains Shields
    Josef HP up
    Josef gains Support 4
    Leonhart ATK up
    Leila ATK/SPD up
    Richard ATK up
    Gordon gains White Magic 4
    Ashe MAG up
    Echo MND up
    Tellah MAG up
    FuSoYa MAG up
    Luneth ATK up
    Luneth gains Katana and Spears
    Luneth gains Dragoon 5 and Darkness 4
    Ingus ATK up
    Ingus gains White Magic 4 and Combat 4
    Desch ATK/MAG up
    Desch gains Machinist 5 and Support 4
    Arc MAG/MND up
    Refia ATK up

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    Celes Knight 5 <3

    Finally.

  16. #5576
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    A couple of interesting things that are worth pointing out:


    -This only applied to the Mana collab banners so there's hope we get those


    -I don't remember this ever being a thing in JP so my guess is that future Nightmare Lucky banners will be unlimited (Curada Lucky is confirmed to be like this) BUT the first pull may still be half priced.

  17. #5577
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    I can't wait to purge all of these Judgement Grimores/random shared SBs.

  18. #5578
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    "First Time Free" is a huge tip off that we're getting the Mana event. Truly Global Master Race.

    I'm just happy the Gold Fest seems to be happening on schedule instead of the month + delay our last orbfest had. I was worried it was going to be pushed back to December.

  19. #5579
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    noooo, I don't have the mythril for that!

  20. #5580
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    Turns out the "First time half price" is present in the JP data but was never used. I still think it means something otherwise why even translate the thing? Should be noted that the special Lucky banners ,that should replace the Nightmare ones, have NOT been translated and the first one launched with the Magus Sisters Mote dungeon.

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