Final Fantasy: Record Keeper 2016 Advancilate Twins

[Corwen]

Whoever designed the U+ and 160/200 multiplayer fights for the new FF12 event in JP clearly hates the playerbase.

U+ fight is 5 mobs that all hit like trucks and spam AoE debuffs (sleep, silence, blind, confuse, and poison). Seriously took about 50 S/L for me to beat this with my A-team, and I normally breeze right through U+. I'm not even going to think about going through the frustration to do the CM for this.

160/200 multiplayer boss frequently opens with a triple attack with each hit doing 6000-8500 to random party members unmitigated, resulting in 2-3 people dead before I get a turn. On the off chance it decides to open with a basic attack giving me time to set up mitigation, it hits like a truck the whole fight, and loves to spam stop, AoE sleep, and AoE blind, and you have a time limit to kill this boss before it uses crush to wipe your party. Took a lot of tries to get past the 160 version, and I needed a mythril revive to have enough dps to do the 200 before it uses crush to wipe me.

[hyoton]

no no you were right. I wasn't referring to the SSB, I was referring to the attack boost on Monk skills - which would give me further reason to use Jecht if they stacked with Shout

Eventually monk gets a 5 star skill that does 2x1.5 pot (3 pot total) self heal 40% and is ranged fire damage. Until then though monk's in dire straits.

[kuronosan]

Do I want to keep Meteor Strike or break it down? I don't really use monks.

[Corwen]

It pairs well with full charge (which every monk can use) for CM in situations you might not be able to bring shout in, as it gives the same attack boost. r1 gives you enough boost time for 6 full charges.

[Yuri-G]

is Lifesiphon worth honing? I think I'm going to make that my next big project. I have Faris BSB so I can ignore Full Break for the most part atm, and I'm putting off my mage team until I pull better relics. I don't have any good relics for a Powerchain + Full Charge character, and the only good Thief's Revenge character I have is Faris - who is usually occupied with her BSB. I'll give her TR eventually, but atm I think Lifesiphon would be a much bigger improvement for the cost. I could use multiple copies actually... Jecht (SSB), Faris (BSB), and Balthier (SSB) all could use it. Ramza too, although I don't know how often you need to recast Shout. I think for a 4* ability, it has insane utility and would do well on my team.

Eventually monk gets a 5 star skill that does 2x1.5 pot (3 pot total) self heal 40% and is ranged fire damage. Until then though monk's in dire straits.

right on. that sounds sexy as hell. my biggest problem with Monk is that it's based around attack boosts, and I have native Shout. so... most of that shit is extraneous to me. I don't do CMs yet and might not ever, so Shout will almost always be available to me.

[hyoton]

Yeah, monks are boring but meteor strike is good for covering a gap. Might even be worth a hone. And to be fair it's the only earth element physical skill I think till Gaia Cross?

[hyoton]

is Lifesiphon worth honing? I think I'm going to make that my next big project. I have Faris BSB so I can ignore Full Break for the most part atm, and I'm putting off my mage team until I pull better relics. I don't have any good relics for a Powerchain + Full Charge character, and the only good Thief's Revenge character I have is Faris - who is usually occupied with her BSB. I'll give her TR eventually, but atm I think Lifesiphon would be a much bigger improvement for the cost. I could use multiple copies actually... Jecht (SSB), Faris (BSB), and Balthier (SSB) all could use it. Ramza too, although I don't know how often you need to recast Shout. I think for a 4* ability, it has insane utility and would do well on my team.

First thing is that I don't think Faris can't use lifesiphon - you'd have to use Wrath. Wrath has a 3% attack boost so it interferes with shout. Shout does overwrite it so if you can sneak in the wraths then shout you're fine.

I have 3 lifesiphons from when it came out and it's aged well but I don't think you need that many. At least want one - when you're starting out and have limited orbs but easier access to new soulbreaks it's a great DPS option, and even later on it enables com 4s to consistently use soul breaks when their meter gain might not be consistent for whatever reason (eg, boss is not using AOE or has a low chance). 3 lifesiphons and getting hit will get you a bar whereas I think it usually takes 10 skills or 6 hitting vuln to get a bar? Which can't be done within a normal 25s recast unless you get hit a lot. Lifesiphon will allow you to punch far above your weight when starting but it's slow and has no other utility. Summing it up lifesiphon is a good idea particularly since the other com skills (bonecrusher? pound??) won't age well at all. I guess Pound is technically okay but I hate the name.

Powerchain full charge is useful on characters who don't have soul breaks. Most of the 5 star skills can generically substitute for lack of soul breaks (for example if you didn't have faris BSSB you'd want full break; if you had, say, lightning's BSSB you wouldn't necessarily need powerchain full charge).

[Yuri-G]

ah right, Faris doesn't have Combat. my bad on that.


I think what I'll do is hone one to at least R3 Lifesiphon and get a feel for how much I like it. and if I want I can always make more copies later


Wrath, hmm. Tempo Flurry is just so damn good, especially with Shout + Full Breakdown + Armor Breakdown. it's surprising how many megabosses are weak to slow. so that leaves one slot. Wrath on Faris + Armor Breakdown on Ramza would leave a spot for Wrath on Faris tho, and with her BSB there's no need for a defensive Breakdown. and getting her BSB up as soon as possible is exceedingly helpful since you can't just cast it like an ability. IDK, just thinking out loud

[Corwen]

is Lifesiphon worth honing? I think I'm going to make that my next big project. I have Faris BSB so I can ignore Full Break for the most part atm, and I'm putting off my mage team until I pull better relics. I don't have any good relics for a Powerchain + Full Charge character, and the only good Thief's Revenge character I have is Faris - who is usually occupied with her BSB. I'll give her TR eventually, but atm I think Lifesiphon would be a much bigger improvement for the cost. I could use multiple copies actually... Jecht (SSB), Faris (BSB), and Balthier (SSB) all could use it. Ramza too, although I don't know how often you need to recast Shout. I think for a 4* ability, it has insane utility and would do well on my team.



right on. that sounds sexy as hell. my biggest problem with Monk is that it's based around attack boosts, and I have native Shout. so... most of that shit is extraneous to me. I don't do CMs yet and might not ever, so Shout will almost always be available to me.

Faris can't use lifesiphon (needs combat 4). She can use wrath, which is similar but does no damage, and gives a self "buff" of 3% attack, which most likely will be overwriting another attack boost (i.e. shout) causing her damage to go way down.

As for lifesiphon in general being worth honing, absolutely, if you have good SSBs on characters with combat 4* access. Lifesiphon + SSB is great damage output until you get well honed 5* abilities, and even then, some SBs offer good enough utility where its still worth using lifesiphon to get them up quicker.

[Tyrath]

I can R4 Chain Blizzaga. Should I? D:

[Kirin]

I can R4 Chain Blizzaga. Should I? D:

Id say yes, but I had enough to R3 it right away and enough to R3 the next Chain spell too.

Saved my literal hide against Kaiser Dragon.

[hyoton]

I can R4 Chain Blizzaga. Should I? D:

...why not R3 another chainspell or another chain blizz?!
It'd be a totally bad decision but I've given it some thought. My offsynergy mage weapon of choice is an ice staff IX. Are there any enelement ice armors?

[Ratatapa]

You guys plan to shatter NQ blizzaga? or keep Blizzaga Blizzja and Chain Blizzaga?

[Akiyama]

Gonna do the X-2 stuff tomorrow since i've been doing the double greens stuff today.. looking forward to Chain Blizzaga tho. I just got done R3'ng my Blizzaja for Kaiser lol, RIP

[Ratatapa]

Gonna do the X-2 stuff tomorrow since i've been doing the double greens stuff today.. looking forward to Chain Blizzaga tho. I just got done R3'ng my Blizzaja for Kaiser lol, RIP

Then you should wait Saturday cuz Friday is also double greens

[Akiyama]

Ah true good point.

[Kirin]

You guys plan to shatter NQ blizzaga? or keep Blizzaga Blizzja and Chain Blizzaga?

Id probably shatter the 3* blm spells to be honest, even though the 3* orbs don't really do anything for me at this point.

Honestly if there was an instance where I need to proc an elemental weakness but couldnt fit it in because of other requirements, id probably use a RM to do so. Like the Beatrix fight needing Holy damage.

[Ratatapa]

Id probably shatter the 3* blm spells to be honest, even though the 3* orbs don't really do anything for me at this point.

Honestly if there was an instance where I need to proc an elemental weakness but couldnt fit it in because of other requirements, id probably use a RM to do so. Like the Beatrix fight needing Holy damage.

Of course 3* means something to you you use them to transfer them to 5*

[synistar]

I'm keeping my 3*. They helped out for the Kaiser Dragon, so maybe I may rarely use them? *shrug*

[Kirin]

I mean, shattering would get me 2 majors at most? I dont know.

Ive got the space to keep them around.