Final Fantasy: Record Keeper 2016 Advancilate Twins

[Kirbyprime]

Reset on Greens... and it's motes + MPO/MNO/MWO. >___>

[kuronosan]

Last day of Mog Banner!

[Ratatapa]

Last day of Mog Banner!

about fucking time

[Yuri-G]

bah, don't think I can pull off the fourth tier of these doom guys :/


right now I'm running:

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(70) Ramza | Double Cut, Magic (or Power) Breakdown | Battleforged | Shout
(80) Faris | Tempo Flurry, Defense Breakdown | 20% bow RM | BSB
(62) Jecht | Double Cut, Lifesiphon R2 | Haste RM | SSB
(66) Bartz | Fira Strike, Bio Strike | Spellblade Master | BSB
(67) Selphie | Curaga, Protectga/Shellga | Concentration I | Dreamstage

and the upgrades I think I need to make are:

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- bring along a decent secondary healer, possibly a paladin-type, in case Shellga and Protectga are both needed. not for every battle; depends on the fight
- upgrade to Curaja, speaking of healing. possibly Curaise?
- RMs. good lord those RMs are mediocre. Selphie should have 20% cure up. Dr Mog's and Mako Might as well as Lionheart/Ace Striker would help a lot. haste RMs are practically worthless when you're using Shout, but I have nothing better atm. Celes RM > Bartz RM for spellblade damage as far as I can tell.
- Bartz's abilities >_> really, 3* spellblades? that's... not really helping here...
- Lifesiphon. needs moar Lifesiphon. running a SB-heavy team is shit if you can't get your SBs up. it's fine when there are trash battles, or when you can survive long enough to get SBs up (Chocobo Eater Ultimate, for example) but in cases like Odin where time is a factor, or Ultima Weapon where his damage output is just too strong to last that long without some heavy RNG luck, this team simply doesn't have enough SB generation. I am considering Wrath for Faris too; obviously it would be used before Shout, and only in battles where it's really necessary to get that BSB up ASAP. that limited utility puts it on the backburner considering the orbs it uses; not sure I'll ever go that route but it's a thought.
- more 5* damage abilities to lesson the reliance on SBs.
- obvs level 80 all around would help

Kinda sucks that I probably won't be able to make any of those upgrades before the event finishes. IDK, I could growth egg/Sundaily the RMs I need but all of them would require using MC lodes. that's really the only way I can see myself beating this content before it's gone :/

[Classikmage]

How do we allocate the 5* job motes, when i go to the record sphere all I is nodes for 3* and 4* motes. Do I have to completely unlock a character (including 4* nodes) to be able to use 5* job motes on them?

[Kirin]

bah, don't think I can pull off the fourth tier of these doom guys :/


right now I'm running:

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(70) Ramza | Double Cut, Magic (or Power) Breakdown | Battleforged | Shout
(80) Faris | Tempo Flurry, Defense Breakdown | 20% bow RM | BSB
(62) Jecht | Double Cut, Lifesiphon R2 | Haste RM | SSB
(66) Bartz | Fira Strike, Bio Strike | Spellblade Master | BSB
(67) Selphie | Curaga, Protectga/Shellga | Concentration I | Dreamstage

and the upgrades I think I need to make are:

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- bring along a decent secondary healer, possibly a paladin-type, in case Shellga and Protectga are both needed. not for every battle; depends on the fight
- upgrade to Curaja, speaking of healing. possibly Curaise?
- RMs. good lord those RMs are mediocre. Selphie should have 20% cure up. Dr Mog's and Mako Might as well as Lionheart/Ace Striker would help a lot. haste RMs are practically worthless when you're using Shout, but I have nothing better atm. Celes RM > Bartz RM for spellblade damage as far as I can tell.
- Bartz's abilities >_> really, 3* spellblades? that's... not really helping here...
- Lifesiphon. needs moar Lifesiphon. running a SB-heavy team is shit if you can't get your SBs up. it's fine when there are trash battles, or when you can survive long enough to get SBs up (Chocobo Eater Ultimate, for example) but in cases like Odin where time is a factor, or Ultima Weapon where his damage output is just too strong to last that long without some heavy RNG luck, this team simply doesn't have enough SB generation. I am considering Wrath for Faris too; obviously it would be used before Shout, and only in battles where it's really necessary to get that BSB up ASAP. that limited utility puts it on the backburner considering the orbs it uses; not sure I'll ever go that route but it's a thought.
- more 5* damage abilities to lesson the reliance on SBs.
- obvs level 80 all around would help

Kinda sucks that I probably won't be able to make any of those upgrades before the event finishes. IDK, I could growth egg/Sundaily the RMs I need but all of them would require using MC lodes. that's really the only way I can see myself beating this content before it's gone :/

Have you looked at the other people besides Bartz who get synergy for this fight? Greg, Squall and Celes all come to mind. With Greg especially (or another Knight character, Ramza maybe?) it may benefit you to put them in the back row with a ranged weapon and use Draw Fire to make it easier on your healer(s).

You have native shout, Faris BSB for Full Breakdown, and stackable with Armor/Power BD. I think its worth the investment to get at least 1 SB RM in Mako Might or Dr. Mog, and maybe RW Wall for a little extra mitigation.

Orbs may be an issue, but isn't Tempo Flurry just every so slightly stronger than Double Cut? Dismissal can help a lot in setting up too for the stun if it can proc on the first action.

Personally Sundaily is a terrible waste for RM farming. Use FF6 Vector Streets unless you need stage specific unlocks, and then generally the first stage or two in each realm is better.

[Melena]

I find her BSB pretty hard to use, assuming you can't give her an SB bar to start. That means you'd need to use Full Break and the relevant Breakdown as abilities. So her BSB effect, and the BSB commands aren't really buying you much. She's a good damage dealer that can use Breakdowns, and that's about it.

And if you do give her the SB bar, it means you're not running the full trinity (two + RW). I suppose you could not Mako Might your medica, but IMO trading a medica and 20% damage RM to make full use of Faris' BSB isn't worth it.

At least for my A team, I haven't Mako mighted Relm since i got the RM that allows the chance for double white magic procs. It's been a while since i've had a U+ where I needed a medica before round 4, and typically I grab Garnet's regen/res/haste up RW since I have the trifecta in party.

[Yuri-G]

Have you looked at the other people besides Bartz who get synergy for this fight? Greg, Squall and Celes all come to mind. With Greg especially (or another Knight character, Ramza maybe?) it may benefit you to put them in the back row with a ranged weapon and use Draw Fire to make it easier on your healer(s).

You have native shout, Faris BSB for Full Breakdown, and stackable with Armor/Power BD. I think its worth the investment to get at least 1 SB RM in Mako Might or Dr. Mog, and maybe RW Wall for a little extra mitigation.

Orbs may be an issue, but isn't Tempo Flurry just every so slightly stronger than Double Cut? Dismissal can help a lot in setting up too for the stun if it can proc on the first action.

Personally Sundaily is a terrible waste for RM farming. Use FF6 Vector Streets unless you need stage specific unlocks, and then generally the first stage or two in each realm is better.

yeah I have looked at them - none of my spellblade characters are leveled or broken yet. I'm pretty far behind on XP and MCs, to be honest (just came back ~2 months ago after taking over a year off). I do have a ton of eggs saved up though, and these motes are effectively not coming back that we know of (unless you can beat the most difficult boss in the game). MC2 lodes are the stumbling block there; I have three lodes right now and have reached the point where I can grab new lodes as they come, so that's something to think about. MC1 lodes we're getting a ton of lately (even during this event) so I can level up anyone I need to 65. maybe at least Greg, as you said, for Drawtaliate?


hadn't thought about Ramza in the back row with Draw Fire... that might help a lot too.


as far as the RMs go, I need to look up whose MC2s we are getting again soon and make a decision - those SB RMs are invaluable and I think I would not regret spending some eggs and lodes on them. there's a huge difference between starting the battle with Faris BSB and having to build her bar up (without Lifesiphon, it's pretty painful).


thanks for your reply. mostly I'm just thoughtcrafting because I'd really like to get these motes while I can. when I have some time this weekend I might see what I can pull off. I mean, with those SBs and those characters I should be able to do something... might be time to finally stop hoarding eggs lol

[arus2001]

How do we allocate the 5* job motes, when i go to the record sphere all I is nodes for 3* and 4* motes. Do I have to completely unlock a character (including 4* nodes) to be able to use 5* job motes on them?

Scroll/slide down past them. Char needs to be 65+ to unlock, too.

[Moridam]

pretty sure cloud/aeris MC2 are the first repeats during the OSB event next week, and cloud's double-break RM is a must-have. get him to 65 this coming sunday if he isn't leveled already!

[Yuri-G]

pretty sure cloud/aeris MC2 are the first repeats during the OSB event next week, and cloud's double-break RM is a must-have. get him to 65 this coming sunday if he isn't leveled already!

gah, that event starts just after the dooms event ends. so I'll grab it for sure, but no way am I spending a MC2 lode in the meantime (obvs)


what about Tyro's MC2, where do we get that? I might lode him instead.


also going to take a look (when I have a minute) at Squall and Tidus MC2s -> SB charge RMs. Squall in particular I could use as spellblade during this event anyway, although his RM requires taking damage so a bit RNGy

[synistar]

For fights where there is a lot of AoE, Lionheart RM is p good. Steiner's RM3, Knight's Charge, is splitting the difference between Lionheart and Ace Striker/Battleforged.

I don't think they reissued Tyro's MC2. Odds are you grab in Hall of Rites. You can check the first tab in this spreadsheet here to see if it pops up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1211382974

As for healing RMs, Devout's RM2 is good (chance at double cast WHM spells) as is Lenna's RM1 or Y'shtola's RM1 (+10% healing.) I will say before I got Dr. Mog's & Mako Might, I had to just survive the beginning of battles with breaks (was to impoverished for breakdowns nor did I know about decent Support characters at the time) to get Stoneskin up with Knight's Charge RM. You have a lot of good so far in mitigation effects that wall isn't 100% necessary. Helps, but maybe just Yolo with a Burst DD RM and go. Heck, even grab a Faris BSB RW for the opening and when you run out of hones.

[Yuri-G]

ok so might as well just lode Tyro's MC2. his RM3 alone should make a huge difference.


I think I can do this; at least I'm gonna try. readjust my strategies a bit, add some new tools, and those motes should be mine.


you guys are all really helpful. seriously. thanks so much!

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except for rata, fuck that guy

[kuronosan]

It makes a HUGE difference.

[Ratatapa]

ok so might as well just lode Tyro's MC2. his RM3 alone should make a huge difference.


I think I can do this; at least I'm gonna try. readjust my strategies a bit, add some new tools, and those motes should be mine.


you guys are all really helpful. seriously. thanks so much!

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except for rata, fuck that guy

Well fuck you too

and use this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1515517076

[Korialstrasz]

While on the topic of overhyped bursts, as I just lucked into Tyro's on my 100 gem this evening, am I wrong in thinking that a native Keeper's Tome falls into a similar spot as Faris's burst, especially as someone who also owns his SG? I'm having a difficult time figuring out a way to make use of it that doesn't involve making a substantial sacrifice somewhere.

I have both SG and his BSSB, and (as someone also with native trinity) I just bring a wall RW instead. I give him 2 breakdowns and use his burst, as I prefer being able to get wall up/refreshed with anyone over it being locked to just him.

[kuronosan]

I feel like if you have native shout and both of Tyro's good relics then you should consider RWing one or the other. Then again I have neither.

[carlweathers]

Can anyone explain to me how the Wandering hero works? I'm a new player and I'm kinda confused why this thing exists, it basically lets me one shot anything, including bosses. It feels like cheating.

[arus2001]

They may seem overpowering earlier on, but they pretty much become essential for late-game event fights.

[carlweathers]

They may seem overpowering earlier on, but they pretty much become essential for late-game event fights.

Am I ruining the game for myself by using them? It feels very cheap to have this gameshark button on my screen that lets me one-shot bosses. idk, maybe i should think of it more like a lifeline than an IWIN button.