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  1. #6941
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    So, 1% chance at 5* ain't so bad if it guaranteed a 5* base character like lightning or Gilgamesh, characters who have no 3 or 4* version and only appear in 5*+, but its not. You can pull a 5* version of a 3* unit. To put this in terms you can understand.... imagine if you will, you do an 11 draw in FFRK and see a glimmering 6* orb and scream for joy you just got an OSB, only to find out it was a 4*++ item. That's FFBE in a nutshell.
    Luckily this will be fixed eventually: in JP, if you pull a 4* or 5* crystal, it will always be a 4* or 5* only unit... but a 1% chance at a rainbow crystal is still way too fucking low.

    Mobius started out being probably the best or second best FF mobile game. It then killed itself by drinking the bleach that is P2W macrotransactions. Making a $75 purchase the only way to get the iconic FF character jobs is... well, it's speaking for itself, really. The rest of the game is still the best out of all 3 imo.

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    Wrong thread girls !

  3. #6943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Luckily this will be fixed eventually: in JP, if you pull a 4* or 5* crystal, it will always be a 4* or 5* only unit... but a 1% chance at a rainbow crystal is still way too fucking low.
    I can't wait for that then, that'll be really really nice :\

    That said, one thing FFBE does do to make up for the lack of horrific lapis supply is that most of these gathering events have 10 Tickets available, which is basically 50 Mythril.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Wrong thread girls !
    We're comparing. dillwitit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Wrong thread girls !
    hush, we are having a discussion about the superiority of various mobile final fantasy games and oh god I never thought my life would sink this low


    BE's gacha does need better 5* rates. it was that and the grinding that got me. mogcakes... I still remember mogcakes... *shudder*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Making a $75 purchase the only way to get the iconic FF character jobs is... well, it's speaking for itself, really.
    WHAT.

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    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Luckily this will be fixed eventually: in JP, if you pull a 4* or 5* crystal, it will always be a 4* or 5* only unit... but a 1% chance at a rainbow crystal is still way too fucking low.

    Mobius started out being probably the best or second best FF mobile game. It then killed itself by drinking the bleach that is P2W macrotransactions. Making a $75 purchase the only way to get the iconic FF character jobs is... well, it's speaking for itself, really. The rest of the game is still the best out of all 3 imo.
    Honestly, I think 1% is okay (even though it pains me) with the JP gacha change, but getting raped with a rainbow crystal garbage unit (fuck you Rakshaha) is soul crushing. As someone who spent a good amount on FFRK but next to nothing on FFBE, let me offer this food for thought:

    In FFRK, you might have your favorite character, but they're getting newer weapons (SSB, BSSB, OSSB) at a fairly quick rate so while you'd still be able to use that character, you're probably going to shell out to get your favorite shiny for your favorite character on a decent basis. Additionally, the odds of pulling that one specific shiny you want for that favorite character are relatively similar to the rates of pulling a rainbow crystal in FFBE.

    Now consider in FFBE that if you do hit a rainbow crystal on that character's featured banner, there's a really good chance that it's going to be the character you want. Additionally, this character is never going to need additional upgrading via further gachas; in fact, the character will still be enhanced in the long term through ability enhancements but that isn't gacha related.

    I spent a good amount on FFRK and the RNG ramrodded me pretty hard in the global version to the point that I just didn't want to feel like I needed to keep shelling out to keep my favorite characters equipped with the newest shinys. I've since gone to FFBE where I've basically spent nothing so far; my original account only rolled a single rainbow and it ended up being a somewhat meh one and I ended up being given an account that was a mini-whale that had a single 5* base on it which was Lightning (the one I wanted.) There's only one other character released so far in JP that I feel like I can't do without and that's Tidus. Even if I spent money for Tidus after exhausting my current resources (which are considerable because I'm planning ahead for this), I wouldn't feel like I had to spend again until Squall and Cloud are released (which hasn't even happened on JP yet) which is most likely going to result in a considerable less amount of money spent in the long term for me.

    Additionally, many of the 3* and 4* base units are EXTREMELY good. Paladin Cecil is arguably still the best tank in the game on JP side (and if he isn't then 4* WoL is) and he's a 3* that has been featured on a couple of banners which makes it VERY easy to pull him. All of the content so far has been easily clearable without a 5* base unit and I'm almost positive that trend will continue because it's assumed those players will be slowly working towards Trust Mastery (which they do give out percentage moogles to ease the grind at a pretty fair rate) which are really the relics of this game that substantially increase damage done by any character.

    Moreover, the ability to use a whale friend makes it even easier to overcome the lack of 5* base units (which outside of salt, isn't even really a detriment with the amount of top tier future proof characters are 3* and 4* base.)

    There's a lot more depth to FFBE and daily pulls are *almost sustainable* if you include every source of currency gain over the month which is a nice option for people who love to pull constantly without breaking the bank.

    I think it just depends on your viewpoint of things, but FFBE is much more suited to me for sure.

    Also, I don't think the you can compare the upgrading of weapons in FFRK to the upgrading of units in FFBE. There are many units that have 3* and 4* star bases but get exponentially more powerful and turn into top tier once you upgrade them to their 6* versions (which is easy and requires no further gacha.)

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    Is doing the highest stamina daily dungeons the most efficient means of obtaining "major" orbs? Trying to farm some for Full Break, but no luck yet. Not sure if I should blow mythril or not on this.

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    For farming major orbs outside of celebration events (e.g. orbfests), yes, the dailies are the best, but they are not worth blowing mythril for.

    If you have story dungeons you haven't cleared yet, a lot of the harder ones give major orbs as rewards.

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    I'm voting for monkey guy!

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    Leading Man: Hard to ever turn him down, but many if not most players have 2 Blitz Rings already and Lightning resist is plentiful.
    Monkey Boy: Wind is such a rarely used element, but probably the most intelligent decision of the 3. Most wind spells don't fall under black magic, so Runic doesn't always catch them either
    Treasure Hunter: Like Balthier, we have a lot of Fire resist options already. But damn if that isn't the coolest item of the 3.

    Will probably cave and go 3 on rarity of Wind resist, but the devil on my shoulder is telling me to vote for Locke.

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    Pretty much agree with what Diomer said, and why I haven't really touched RK in a loooong time.

    My units, for all intents and purposes, are solid; gearing them up via TM is a pipe dream, but doable over a long enough period of time.

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    Why couldn't they have given us Tidus's Necklace as Atk + 15 and Mid Water resist?

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    Would rather have the Wind one. Fire/Lightning resistance is easy to come by.

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    Yeah fire and lightning are just non optimal choices.

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    Hmm, apparently we get another wind resist item with atk upcoming for 3/3/1 lightning/wind/fire res+atk items, so...eh?! Whatever /squallvoice

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    Yeah, we get one in XIV and again in Fujin/Raijin which brings us to 5.

    I'm voting Locke, and you should too!

    We have all the fire resist items possible, but only Carnelian Signet has +Atk. This gives another option.

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    Orb fest delayed


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    refresh my memory, do orbfest rounds give mythril?

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