4Gamer Interview: Yoshida responds to player questions/requests

**Ophannus** · 2016-01-20 09:28

The vocalist for Ramuh actually sings in a fictional language - High Sylphic, which kind of is a blend of Japanese and English. It sounds really beautiful. Ravana's theme, like Shiva's is likely him singing of himself.

**Rocl** · 2016-01-20 10:35

Only the first stanza is high sylphic, which like dragonspeak was created during development of 1.0 and never used until ARR

**Destinye** · 2016-01-20 11:06

Originally Posted by Rocl

Only the first stanza is high sylphic, which like dragonspeak was created during development of 1.0 and never used until ARR

Spoiler: show

Either way though, it still makes me curious how the Titan and Leviathan battles were for 1.x and if they used a similar track to Ifrit or Garuda style.

**Rocl** · 2016-01-20 11:20

Are we talking pre-Yoshida 1.x? There's never been any indication of Garuda pre-Yoshida (though it isn't a farfetched guess, but something like Slyvan Ramuh was more heavily hinted) or a fight with Leviathan or Titan.

Titan is problematic, since he obviously existed pre-Yoshida, but like Ifrit probably wasn't meant to be fought early on. (I wonder if we were ever supposed to cross swords with the primal gods before Yoshida took the helm tbh, it certainly didn't seem like it)

As far as musical themes, there's a few unused/underused battle themes in Before Meteor--but I feel Primal Judgement probably would've been the default primal fite theme before Soken took over composing with Yoshida.

EDIT: I dug through some shit I forgot, but there are only infrequent namedrops so I don't hate myself too bad lol

**Destinye** · 2016-01-20 11:30

Yeah prior to Yoshida. It does seem like it was rushed in to give us content more than anything, but would have been interesting since they clearly have their own personalities so the fights could have been fairly dynamic based around it rather than "go in and kill x primal!" Which is how I always pictured Ramuh considering he's more there to protect the Sylph (and of course as with all primals those who directly communicate are tempered regardless) and Leviathan was said to not be the serpent from the 1.0 intros but it would kind of make sense that when we popped up it was in the midst of the (didn't exist yet) Sahagin summoning him and well, our ship just happened to be crossing said path.

Primals did seem like we were heading on a path to either try to convince them to help us fight the Garleans eventually (it makes sense in the tone of FF) or if that failed we then had to take them out, since we learned they hurt the planet - We also learned during 1.x that we (players) can also summon our own Primals, which I figured..Phoenix essentially representing in 2.x in a sense.

**ronin sparthos** · 2016-01-20 11:33

Originally Posted by Scythiroth

My favorite music in the game is still Ramuh's theme. >.> Didn't really fit the fight at all, but I liked it.

How does it not fit? The sylph are singing praises of Ramuh and that you should die because Ramuh is awesome. It's just like Titan, except they aren't screaming at you.
Because Ramuh is the levelheaded primal who is testing you and his music follows.

Coming off Garuda screaming at you (HAHAHEHEHAHAHAHEHA!), Titan's peanut gallery screaming at you (BOW DOWN OVERDWELLA) and Levithan's doods (LEVIATHAN, LEVIATHAN!) , Ramuh was a refreshing changing of pace.

I chuckled a little when Leviathan tries to flip the boat with Tidal Wave and seems genuinely annoyed you cheated to avoid it. YOU CHALLENGE ME WITH TRICKERY?! YOU CANNOT QUELL THE RAGING SEA.

**Scythiroth** · 2016-01-20 11:40

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

How does it not fit? The sylph are singing praises of Ramuh and that you should die because Ramuh is awesome. It's just like Titan, except they aren't screaming at you.
Because Ramuh is the levelheaded primal who is testing you and his music follows.

Anyone I've told that I've liked it before said they didn't like how it didn't fit the battle! So much for listening to them I guess.

**Sho** · 2016-01-20 11:41

Ironic part about Ramuh's theme is that it was originally Ultima Weapons theme at some point in the past. The Sylphic portions was added during the post processing phase.

**Rocl** · 2016-01-20 11:45

Originally Posted by Sho

Ironic part about Ramuh's theme is that it was originally Ultima Weapons theme at some point in the past. The Sylphic portions was added during the post processing phase.

Pretty sure you've got it flipped; they showed off Ultima theme said "this is the Ramuh theme" and then it was used for Ultima and it was very OHHHHHHH SHIT for me in Praetorium.

**Sho** · 2016-01-20 11:54

Originally Posted by Rocl

Pretty sure you've got it flipped; they showed off Ultima theme said "this is the Ramuh theme" and then it was used for Ultima and it was very OHHHHHHH SHIT for me in Praetorium.

Yuh! That.

**ronin sparthos** · 2016-01-20 11:57

Which Ultima phase?

**Xanthe** · 2016-01-20 12:03

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

Which Ultima phase?

Second phase.

**Spider-Dan** · 2016-01-20 12:04

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

How does it not fit?

Should be less serene, more epic.

Lightning and thunder is not subtle.

**ronin sparthos** · 2016-01-20 12:26

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

Should be less serene, more epic.

Lightning and thunder is not subtle.

I'll agree to disagree.

Ramuh's theme is pretty calm to reflect the fact that unlike the other primals this isn't a legitimate fight, it's a test. The sylph are still threatening you in song but it's subdued because like Ramuh they're reserved. They keep to the Slyphlands and unlike the other tempered are pretty chill. The music just follows suit. Lightning and thunder can be scary but it's also pretty soothing.

Compare this with Alexander where the goblins invent new words to describe killing you. They're pissed (and the music shows) but what do you expect when the WoL is Magic School Bussing about inside their primal?

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2016-01-20 12:51

I wonder if Bismark is ever going to have a speaking role. So far he just wails at you.

**solracht** · 2016-01-20 12:53

Bismark is this game?

**Destinye** · 2016-01-20 13:00

Originally Posted by solracht

Bismark is this game?

I think we got a glimpse of him, I'm not sure.

**Rocl** · 2016-01-20 13:03

Bismark isn't but Bismarck is =)

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2016-01-20 13:35

ah whatever fuck you guys, you knew what i meant

**Qeomash** · 2016-01-21 22:33

On Ramuh's theme, I still find it amusing that the opening lyrics are in Firefly (Ep 4, first scene).

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