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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelweiss View Post
    Ravana is also fun as fuck and probably the best Primal thus far. Kudos to whomever put that fight and the theme together.
    Just a pity the tuning for it was so low.

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    Even though they're easy, Ravana Ex and Thordan Ex I find to be perfect compromises for the people too salty about "raiders wanting content" and "I suck at the game please hand me good gear" folks. They're all mostly mechanic driven with touches of DPS burning (and yes, despite what people STILL SEEM TO BELIEVE, the Parry shields does indeed fuck you if you're a ranged attacker) but sadly, Yoshi confirmed last letter they won't do anything as hard as Thordan Ex again so unless the next fights are just as mechanic driven, the whiners keep winning on getting a dumbed down game. Even Midas being in between second and final coil will likely make it easy aside the instant death walls they're no doubt adding to compensate.

    My only hope is the storyline dungeon will be as intricate and maybe even a bit of a challenge like the Research Facility was the first time through as a fresh a 60. But then I remember yoshi said if it may stop people from progression it's a big no no to make us use our brains and be skilled beyond 123 rotations. Maybe 3.3 when they allocate resources to stuff that matters things will balance out a bit more since they're wasting so...much...on PvP to the point of even doing some kind PvP event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    Just a pity the tuning for it was so low.

    It was tuned pretty well IMO. People were just starting to get i170-i180 gear. Sure at i190 plus it was a joke but between learning new abilities and farming gear from basically scratch it was tuned appropriately and was quite fun for the first couple weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    It was tuned pretty well IMO. People were just starting to get i170-i180 gear. Sure at i190 plus it was a joke but between learning new abilities and farming gear from basically scratch it was tuned appropriately and was quite fun for the first couple weeks.
    It was a joke at i170. It was tuned for i150/i160.

    And this is the main problem with how quick the game replaces gear/content - it just makes stuff faceroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldsaxon View Post
    It was a joke at i170. It was tuned for i150/i160.
    Pretty much, most of the people I cleared with had done little beyond two expert dungeons and Bismarck, and Ravana still wasn't particularly challenging except for Swift Liberation plus puddles (before realizing how those two mechanics fully worked). It's a fun fight, but I wouldn't say it was "tuned pretty well".

    Regardless, I welcome more trials like Ravana, my social circles are dead as fuck and it's hard to be picky about who to bring to fights these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    My only hope is the storyline dungeon will be as intricate and maybe even a bit of a challenge like the Research Facility was the first time through as a fresh a 60.
    Research Facility with a group of fresh 60s was so much fun. Igeyorhm and her Shiva-styled ice-dodging was neat, it seemed like a natural progression of Shiva EX's ice floor.

    That being said, they haven't put an iLevel cap on it, so I go in there and help people on WHM and basically tank everything. I can eat every single ball in the final phase of the final boss and not even have my HP halved. It's worth it to go in every once and a while for fun.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    Ravana theme best track in the game.
    Just so we are clear, the first track is the best track in game.

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    No objections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    Ravana theme best track in the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Just so we are clear, the first track is the best track in game.
    ?_?

    Have we forgotten already?
    Spoiler: show

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    *Cover tracks don't count

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    they're wasting so...much...on PvP to the point of even doing some kind PvP event?
    Someone higher up at SE probably went "There's money in this eSports stuff, so we need to be doing that with FFXIV".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Just so we are clear, the first track is the best track in game.
    Titan still exists in the game, so no. Actually, let me take it a step further:

    Ravana is the third-best primal theme... from HW.

    That's not to say that Ravana is bad, but Soken brought the ruckus with HW.

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    I myself would place Titan at 2nd best track in the game. After that it gets fuzzier.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    I myself would place Titan at 2nd best track in the game. After that it gets fuzzier.
    Even then I'd say even the first track of Titan (guitar riff) is the best of the 4 parts. Soken really does some boss mode song openers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    Titan still exists in the game, so no. Actually, let me take it a step further:

    Ravana is the third-best primal theme... from HW.

    That's not to say that Ravana is bad, but Soken brought the ruckus with HW.
    Nah. Do tell what from HW is beating out Ravana? Thordan EX is up there, but no way it's beating Ravana's first theme, no way.

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    just have everything in it!

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    While I like the first Ravana song I don't really see what makes it "best evar" material, it's kind of a holding pattern tune meant to prelude the real fight.

    It just doesn't have a whole lot of meat to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    While I like the first Ravana song I don't really see what makes it "best evar" material, it's kind of a holding pattern tune meant to prelude the real fight.

    It just doesn't have a whole lot of meat to it.
    Iono, I see it differently -- Soken uses a very good range on the cello, while the chanting acts as the song's metronome. To that effect, he gives the song a feel of either being a slow waltz or a paced marching theme, depending on how you listen to it. It has quite a bit of meat on it, even if it's a repeated theme.

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    I'd put Bismarck (either) and Thordan 2 above Ravana 1.

    Titan 1 and Titan 5 are still the best in the game, IMO. I'd probably put Levi 2 and Ramuh above HW as well, if we're just counting primals.

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    I'm partial to Titan's intro: I love the garage-band cover aspect of it. Its so grungy and stank. I can smell the sulfur under the ground where he's waiting for you.

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    I'm not that fond of HW's music that much, but Primal Wise I like Thordan Ex's most since it's a nice remix.



    In general, I like this song the most on current soundtrack that didn't come from 1.x era.

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