Looking to buy a new PC.

[Krazy]

Don't feel like waiting to see if XCOM 2 is getting a PS4 release, so I figure I'll just buy a PC. I wanted to get something a little beefy so I could play other games on it too that maybe don't run well on the PS4 now or down the line.

This one looks decent to me:
http://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Sh...%3A13580790011

Some of the comments mention it runs stuff like Fallout 4 and GTAV really well at ultra high settings, but it's been so long since I've really gamed on a PC I thought I should ask for some advice. I'd like to keep it at about $1,000, but I'm flexible.

[Tymon]

Don't right now, is my advice to you. You're going to pay premium prices for hardware that's on the way out.

New GPU architecture from NVIDIA and new CPU architecture from Intel are both only around a month away, 2 at the most. Even if you want to use old stuff, you'd save, on average, 30-40% by waiting.

[Arkanna]

Way too much $$$. You can build the same PC yourself for a good bit cheaper.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JPt8Lk

[Krazy]

Don't right now, is my advice to you. You're going to pay premium prices for hardware that's on the way out.

New GPU architecture from NVIDIA and new CPU architecture from Intel are both only around a month away, 2 at the most. Even if you want to use old stuff, you'd save, on average, 30-40% by waiting.

That's good and kinda sucks, really want to play XCOM 2. lol
Guess I'll wait a bit then.

Way too much $$$. You can build the same PC yourself for a good bit cheaper.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JPt8Lk

I know it's always cheaper to build your own, but it's just not something I like doing, I'd rather just get something that's already put together.

[Boyiee]

It takes like half an hour at most why wouldn't you put it together yourself?

[Yabby]

Because he doesn't want to? I know you guys love custom builds (I do too, enjoy it even), but some people don't want to bother with all the boxes, cleanup, time building the PC, then time installing windows, drivers, getting all the normal software (Thanks ninite), etc. Some people think it is worth the extra 200 bucks to pull it out of a box, and plug it in....

[Boyiee]

Think it took me 15 minutes if that to install Windows 10 on an ssd, which is less time than it would take to remove the bloatware on a pre-built pc.

Well if people wanna pay 100+ an hour for anything except a doctor or a lawyer then whatever, lol, seems quite stupid to me.

[Churchill]

People are just intimidated by it, same as old people using computers slowly.

The PC he picked mixed hardware anyway, not something I'd recommend.

[orinthia]

HP, Dell, etc, do have fair gaming comps on sale at times, but the parts used in these can be dubious. You could also look into prebuilts that don't come with a vid card (or come with low end crap like a nvidia 740) and just upgrade vid card and power supply, though you may as well just build the damn thing since you'd be taking it apart anyway in that case.

Look on slickdeals.net for prebuilt posts. You can sometimes find deals, where with a coupon code, are close to what you'd get piecing it yourself (including windows license), but do read the comments and look at shipping dates. You might find a nice deal but it won't matter if it takes 2 months to ship.

If you need it now, be prepared to pay a premium and a retard-tax. iBuyPower on amazon seems to have the least retard-tax (but it's still a retard-tax); I saw a build very similar to what you posted for about $200 less (8gb vs 16gb ram, 1tb vs 1tb+8gb ssd) ( http://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-AM-F...VESFZHN5H8M929 ). Keep looking, you might find something with an intel i7 4790(k), i5 4590(k), or an nvidia 970/amd 290(x). Read reviews and look at specs like a hawk before you buy because they love to throw garbage vid cards your way.

[Boyiee]

Two friends had cyberpower pcs. When I took a look at them when they wanted to upgrade there was barely any water in the pump and it was gross and dirty. They decided to try and upgrade using some parts from it and there was barely anything salvageable including the case because of its terrible design. Ended up replacing entire thing to upgrade instead of just bits and pieces. I'd stay away from them.

[Kalmado]

That pc is stupid overpriced and more than likely has a garbage power supply, stock cpu cooler (loud af), and basic motherboard. A patient builder/buyer could build that for under $650 with MUCH better parts. To be almost $1k and no ssd is inexcusable. Below is my next build I'm selling. Prices are what I paid for them. All is new except the case, corsair fans, and gpu. It has better quality parts than that prebuilt and will rival it in performance. For your wallet's sake either buy parts and have a shop or friend due it or you could even hire one of us to do it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320E 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For $99.99)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $19.99)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Killer ATX AM3+ Motherboard (Purchased For $16.99)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (Purchased For $18.99)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $39.99)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card (Purchased For $75.00)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $26.99)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $11.99)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $14.99)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $14.99)
Total: $339.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-12 09:00 EST-0500

[Wulfgang]

Because he doesn't want to? I know you guys love custom builds (I do too, enjoy it even), but some people don't want to bother with all the boxes, cleanup, time building the PC, then time installing windows, drivers, getting all the normal software (Thanks ninite), etc. Some people think it is worth the extra 200 bucks to pull it out of a box, and plug it in....

This is fair, but I will tell you that I had never built a PC in my life (not even that tech savvy tbh), decided to give it a go in 2010, and that PC is still cruising along right now (occasional GPU upgrades, but nothing else). Took me close to two hours to put it together, had to reseat the CPU once because I used too much thermal paste the first time, but otherwise was pretty easy.

If you still want to buy something pre-built with a nice warranty, go for it. But if you have even a mild inclination to do it yourself, just spend some time on Tom's Hardware / Google and you will be fine. Biggest piece of advice if you do build your own: do not be cheap on the motherboard. I bought a great one back in 2010 (Gigabyte will always be my motherboard brand now) and I have no slot/upgrade issues even in 2016 with it. Also, replacing a motherboard is a pain in the ass; you have to remove everything.

Also, as Kalmado mentioned, I absolutely would not buy a PC without an SSD in 2016. Once you get used to your computer booting up in 10 seconds, you'll never go back.

[Arkanna]

The thing that confuses me most about the machine in the first post is, it's a strange mix of cheap shit and enthusiast stuff. A 500W likely-noname PSU and motherboard, but a liquid cooler and front bay fan controller? Odd.

W/e, I won't pile on, if you don't want to build you own machine that's understandable, but I second what Kalmado said: buy the parts yourself and commission someone to build it for you. The build he's selling is pretty decent ... you could spend another $200 on a newer video card and have a rig that beats the pants off the one from Amazon.

[Kalmado]

I'm dumb and didn't see it was water cooled, but yeah, probably a simple 120mm rad. Nothing more than a $40 part.

[orinthia]

Yeah, some folks are fine with paying a retard-tax to just pull the machine out of a box, plug it in, and it just working (or not and RMAing the whole thing).

That said, newegg.com also makes searching for these a little easier. Can specify the vid cards you're looking for, so you don't see prebuilts with shit cards. One such power search (if linking it works): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...sPowerSearch=1 Saw some interesting machines in there, though if you're willing to go up a little bit, you can get a machine with either an nvidia 970 or amd 390x for $1100. 390x: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883230035 (250gb ssd, amd FX-8320), 970: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883102060 (no ssd, intel i5-4690K).

[Krazy]

HP, Dell, etc, do have fair gaming comps on sale at times, but the parts used in these can be dubious. You could also look into prebuilts that don't come with a vid card (or come with low end crap like a nvidia 740) and just upgrade vid card and power supply, though you may as well just build the damn thing since you'd be taking it apart anyway in that case.

Look on slickdeals.net for prebuilt posts. You can sometimes find deals, where with a coupon code, are close to what you'd get piecing it yourself (including windows license), but do read the comments and look at shipping dates. You might find a nice deal but it won't matter if it takes 2 months to ship.

If you need it now, be prepared to pay a premium and a retard-tax. iBuyPower on amazon seems to have the least retard-tax (but it's still a retard-tax); I saw a build very similar to what you posted for about $200 less (8gb vs 16gb ram, 1tb vs 1tb+8gb ssd) ( http://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-AM-F...VESFZHN5H8M929 ). Keep looking, you might find something with an intel i7 4790(k), i5 4590(k), or an nvidia 970/amd 290(x). Read reviews and look at specs like a hawk before you buy because they love to throw garbage vid cards your way.

Video cards are where I get lost, I see all these GXT 90000 FUCKYEAHBUYME XXXSEPHIROTHXXX stuff and I'm just like, eh? Like, I have zero idea what to look for in a video card.

I do appreciate all the responses, even the ones calling me an idiot more or less for not building my own.

And, orinthia, your links work fine. Once I read up a bit more on the video cards, I'll probably use that to help me find something decent.

[Kalmado]

It's all good BG brethren! I think the consensus is we'd rather you spend the $ in better areas then overspend on poor quality. I checked your profile page and I see you're in NY. I'm in Michigan so I'd have to ship (which would be $$) but I'd be more than happy to build something for you. I live near a Micro Center so I get some crazy deals on cpu/mb combos and occasionally other items like that 8gb ram for $19. Keep asking questions if you have them. We're more than happy to try and help out!

[Zetanio]

I just ask Kalmado and then sound smart when I talk to people about it.

He's a real bro.

[Arkanna]

I just ask Kalmado and then sound smart when I talk to people about it.

He's a real sis.

ftfy

[Zetanio]

Nah. Everyone is a bro, bro.