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  1. #61
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    I know i'm demanding, but do you have the version that shows the stats of each character?


    Also edited above with Hone/Strat info. If Y'shtola hadn't died I likely could have Mastered.

    And no problem, it's nice to be able to try to help someone. I feel this boss is rough if you don't have a good physical SSB/BSB

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    This is the best I can do to 'copy' your setup

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    [IMG][/IMG]


    Tyro has R3 Mental/R2 Fullbreak
    Terra has R5 Firaja/R4 Ruinga
    Rinoa has R4 Waterja/R3 Meteor
    Selphie has R5Curaga (would have to see if i can make a R5 curaja)/R2 Shellga
    Aerith has a R4 Valefor/R5 Ifrit (Phoenix is R1 doubt i can hone it to R4)

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    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    This is the best I can do to 'copy' your setup

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    [IMG][/IMG]


    Tyro has R3 Mental/R2 Fullbreak
    Terra has R5 Firaja/R4 Ruinga
    Rinoa has R4 Waterja/R3 Meteor
    Selphie has R5Curaga (would have to see if i can make a R5 curaja)/R2 Shellga
    Aerith has a R4 Valefor/R5 Ifrit (Phoenix is R1 doubt i can hone it to R4)
    I only had R4 Curaja (10 uses)

    Also, I recommend hiting the charge with mental break, it helped a ton to break him.

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    I mean your mages has better stats and you still had 1 alive, it will be risky

    Also i could do phoenix 1-4 and Curaja 0-5 with the orbs i have, but i'm wondering the use of honing phoenix 1-4 outside this fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    but i'm wondering the use of honing phoenix 1-4 outside this fight
    Future fights you can't break down because of your bad luck in pulls.

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    yeah but is there alot of ultimate weak to fire?

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    I don't see a reason for Phoenix hone. R5 Ifrit did more than enough for me.

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    Would it be worth honing Flame Blossom for burst AOE fire? There's no way I'm honing Phoenix for this and I'm unsure of Blossom vs. Ifrits multipliers.

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    I only honed it to R4 because I had the orbs and said fuckit.

    Mathwork though: Phoenix has a 8 damage multiplier to Ifrit's 5.5 assuming my R4 v. R5 hone, Phoenix does 32 and Ifrit does 27.5

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    i'll try it again tomorrow IF no orb fest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Would it be worth honing Flame Blossom for burst AOE fire? There's no way I'm honing Phoenix for this and I'm unsure of Blossom vs. Ifrits multipliers.
    Absolutely. Sephiroth was hitting for 9999 damage on the Creepers. If you have good physical weapons with RS go for it, helps a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    Absolutely. Sephiroth was hitting for 9999 damage on the Creepers. If you have good physical weapons with RS go for it, helps a lot.
    Yeah I've been having problems with the fight but this for sure worth doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    This is the best I can do to 'copy' your setup

    Spoiler: show

    [IMG][/IMG]


    Tyro has R3 Mental/R2 Fullbreak
    Terra has R5 Firaja/R4 Ruinga
    Rinoa has R4 Waterja/R3 Meteor
    Selphie has R5Curaga (would have to see if i can make a R5 curaja)/R2 Shellga
    Aerith has a R4 Valefor/R5 Ifrit (Phoenix is R1 doubt i can hone it to R4)
    Wondering to go Lunatic or HTFO with this setup, since yeah

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    Flame Blossom on Gold Sword Auron or Gilgamesh would do a lot more damage than non-RS Ruingas. Those Ruingas may barely break 4k damage.

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    Even with SG + Protect + Shell, AoE damage was still high enough to require HotF. Curaja if anything wasn't all that needed since it wasn't spike damage, just couldn't heal everyone fast enough.

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    Goddamn this fight is annoying; been S/Ling on and off all day. The prick keeps randomly tossing out Flares that eat my dudes alive. I've gotten him down under 20% a bunch but get hosed on mitigation; I can't seem to get Tyro's SB gauge filled fast enough. I'm about to swap in Ace Striker instead of Mog's Teachings.

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    You can reflect the Flares back btw but you'd need High regen and AoE cures to heal if you cast Carbuncle.

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    I can't say he Flares enough to justify Carbuncle. The bigger threat(s) to me at the end were the physical AoEs.

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    Cut Renewing Cure on Aerith and added Valefor and equipped her with a shared Shell SB armor. It's working a lot more smoothly, getting 4 dogs down and around 40% without too hard a time. I think killing the dogs and having them respawn when dealing with the first flare orb is the key to the fight. If I keep up on the S/L fest for a while longer without much progress I'll just build SB bars and use a mythril and see where I end up...

    I feel like the party I have now can Master with just a little help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    I can't say he Flares enough to justify Carbuncle. The bigger threat(s) to me at the end were the physical AoEs.
    He was spamming Flares at the very end in my run but yeah, it's the only reflectable ability. Also equip your thunder resistance accessories: Coral Ring, Necrophobe Ward (can use this on your healer) and the new Bolt Ring.

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