The Feast

[Tobi]

Where is this MCH nerf stuff coming from? Link please.

edit: And what's "BTE"?

I’m excited for season 1 of the Feast to start, but I’m worried that certain jobs will become stronger or weaker with the adjustments that take place in Patch 3.25. Will season 1 begin as planned from Patch 3.25?

A: I previously posted the the adjustment plans on the forums, but in Patch 3.25, which is scheduled to be released next week, we will be reducing the match times making it so the battle can be concluded at a quicker pace. Additionally, we will be making adjustments to the aspects that have been leading to long and drawn out matches.

We will be reducing the number of walls that often disturb line of sight, increasing the frequency in which the adrenaline rush box appears and make it easier to destroy, as well as other elements to make the pace of the game quicker.

To coincide with this, we will also be making job adjustments. We’re aware that machinists have a high amount of burst damage, so we’ll be making adjustments to this.

In regards to matchmaking, we’ve already implemented an algorithm that will allow for this to take place more quickly; however, we will be making adjustments to this so that you are matched against people with a closer rating.

We originally planned for season 1 to begin in Patch 3.25, but we will be kicking it off after we address the feedback we’ve been receiving. We’re planning to start season 1 two weeks after Patch 3.25.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Thread/page2

BTE = Between the Eyes, MCHs instant kill button that can deal 10k+ crits when fully buffed on a very low CD.

[Alisha]

according to patch notes they didn't touch mch yet but they buffed farshot to 240 potency.

[Worm]

The following adjustment to supply boxes has been made to hasten the flow of combat.
The HP of the Adrenaline supply box has been reduced.

Lol, you can't trust these little fuckers at all can you? 8v8 will be more of a shit show but at least 4v4 doesn't have more adrenaline pumping.

[kisada]

good changes for nin and bard. completely unnecessary godbuff for mnk lol.

NO CLUE what the fuck they are thinking with drk. it is still so, so, so bad. you read the changes and it really makes it pretty clear they have no idea what constitutes as usefulness in pvp.

[Eldelphia]

SE response to people throwing matches for tomes: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3645007

Greetings,

We are aware that there are users engaging in this kind of behavior and we will be taking action against those found to be taking part in it. If you encounter this type of activity, we ask that you please report it via the in-game Support Desk (System > Support Desk > Report Harassment). Please include as much information as possible in your report.

While we cannot release individual results regarding the investigations we conduct, you can rest assured that we take this seriously and will be carefully looking into each report we receive.

[haroldsaxon]

They should just make the rewards scale based on the match time, with a bonus for winning.

[Dotsudoku]

Can't speak to how many players relate to this, but while I do take matches seriously, I almost certainly wouldn't bother with PVP in the absence of decent, static tome rewards.

For as long as there's been tome rewards, it's been my preferred way to get them. It's fun in and of itself, but the two-birds-one-stone aspect is what actually keeps me doing it

[AlastorTGN]

So I'm getting into this now, was trying it for relic stuff but I really enjoy it for what it is so I want to get better at it.

As WAR:

Where do I put Full Swing in the usual rotation, do I even bother with BB or is better to SP/SE alternately and let dps take advantage of both (and Full Swing)?

as DRG:

What is the best single target combo with PvP skills slotted in?

General stuff:

What is best strat for WHM/BLM wombo combo? AST in general (should the whole team wipe it off the face off the earth asap? He'll be back in 3 secs and just as annoying). One problem I have is when Plan A fails "I rush the healer, you two kill the dps without defense buff" and I dunno' what to do, because it's solo (which is why this will never be respected as true 'e-sport' level or whateveri t was SE wanted) I can't exactly rapido type in what to do in the heat of battle, it's a bit annoying.

[Luthia]

Feeding in the feast is apparently bannable now:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._its_bannable/

[kisada]

So I'm getting into this now, was trying it for relic stuff but I really enjoy it for what it is so I want to get better at it.

As WAR:

Where do I put Full Swing in the usual rotation, do I even bother with BB or is better to SP/SE alternately and let dps take advantage of both (and Full Swing)?

as DRG:

What is the best single target combo with PvP skills slotted in?

General stuff:

What is best strat for WHM/BLM wombo combo? AST in general (should the whole team wipe it off the face off the earth asap? He'll be back in 3 secs and just as annoying). One problem I have is when Plan A fails "I rush the healer, you two kill the dps without defense buff" and I dunno' what to do, because it's solo (which is why this will never be respected as true 'e-sport' level or whateveri t was SE wanted) I can't exactly rapido type in what to do in the heat of battle, it's a bit annoying.

if i played war still i'd do something internal > berserk (making it your 5th stack) > full swing > fell > infuriate > fell > etc etc. maybe holm > mythril after the first fell then brutal swing before or after 2nd fell depending on chain stun timing. that said the smarter the healer is the less susceptible they will be to a simple execution combo like that. smart healers will sneak out of your traps as soon as you put full swing on so you will need to do some game theory against guys who do that.

i would recommend doing SP/SE only as well. the debuff is great on healers and dps to reduce their potencies, and in pvp you experience a lot of CC so you would be gaining a lot more dps by ensuring maim stays up. i would finish with a block combo though on occasion, depending how close a guy is to dying.

make macros if you plan on directing a fight. against whm/blm i think your best course of action is still to focus the blm, even if he has defense. the problem with letting him run free in the event he has defense is either he will CC you to hell, or he will notice nobody gives a shit about him so he will start freecasting fire 4's all day, either of which are disasters.

a lot of people really overrate the defense buff. yeah it helps but you can shit on anyone if all 3 players are good, buff or not.

[AlastorTGN]

Thanks for the tips, another thing: Flash, I've been blinded in PvP and it's really fucking annoying, can I safely use it as WAR (swap out OP or something I guess).

[kisada]

Blind is pld only. Take out provoke and put in mantra

[AlastorTGN]

Oh fuck, yeah. balls. Still, nice to heari t's even more useful in PvP then PvE apparently

[Drexxin]

I'm afraid for the state of solo queue. For the first two weeks, I was pleased because it appeared that these players in ranked were slightly better than the average DF player. But now, it's a cesspool. It's not that you can't carry, it's that it's not even fun to do so anymore as it's tiring.

I'm a healer with a 70% win rate, and it's tiring having to type while keeping everyone alive, CCing, and marking...and you're lucky if people even focus down the marks. Hell, good luck getting people to stop chasing the AST when you type "IGNORE, I'LL SLEEP" and put a "ignore" marker on them. Then, you get tanks that end up top DPS with players barely breaking 200 (which means you can't even properly 1-2-3).

I am totally forgiving of players not min-maxing or being the best players in the world, but seriously, lacking basic common sense and having no cognitive activity towards even the faintest bit of strategy and queueing up for a competitive game mode?

I'm discouraged, but I'm wondering if these players will suddenly lose interest and it'll become a niche, decent, and respectable playerbase...or if it's just going to get worse and worse. I wasn't active for long in Wolves Den, so I can't really say as of now. What do you guys think?

Also, rant aside but healers seem pretty ridiculous right now. As a WHM, I feel way too influential with the amount of CC and heals I have. I think they need to change the amount of damage that needs to be dealt to interrupt healers. Hell, I barely even have to touch Equanimity in the majority of my games. Other than that, I feel like balance-wise it's in a pretty good spot.

[Kipling]

I will agree with you and say WHM is pretty much a cc-god. Their strength comparatively when facing similarly skilled healers on other jobs is obvious.

As for what will happen with the feast, I think it will go much like Wolves Den. Although I think it will have a slightly larger audience if only for the following reasons:

1) It rewards currency used in PvE contents
2) Lower barrier to entry than WD (Morale gear stomping is not present)
3) The visible ranking system is I think more tangible a reward than simply PVP rank or morale gear that required you to be max rank to even equip it

Due to the above reasons I think it will enjoy a larger audience for longer than WD, but I think once we get past season 1 it will begin to dwindle considerably and settle down into a regular pool of players with a few randoms or people using it to cap weekly currency sprinkled about. Longer queues, more solid/dedicated playerbase.

[kisada]

mostly agree. it'll be WD level and then a new FL will come out and SE will wash their hands of feast.

[Kipling]

I'm wondering when the hell they are going to give us a capture the flag game mode SOMEWHERE. That's all I want.

[Spider-Dan]

Wasn't that Secure? Or close enough, anyway.

[Marcicus]

give me Ballista, Petras and all, and I'll be happy.

[Kipling]

Wasn't that Secure? Or close enough, anyway.

I would consider that King of the Hill. I mean an actual flag where part of the fun is marathoning that shit across the zone.