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  1. #61
    Hackey Thread Lurker since 2010
    I could have bought an 11 pull and have 1000 gems left over, but all I got was this silly title.

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    After a party tweak and bunch of S/L to land banishing blade on Leblanc then first turn blind, mastered with 1 action medal lost. Cid with Blind shell was boss. Also this fight is nudging me to make my 2nd Lifesiphon and R3 it ASAP.

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    Went with HyperRamza, Lightning, Vanille, Tyro, Tidus and Deprotega RW (didn't really want to hunt for a better one). I'll just say that Blind Shell is OP and Lightning destroyed the trio with Crushing Blow spam while Vanille spent the whole fight sleeping.
    Slow and Blind are your buddies in this fight, abuse them.

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    Cake Mix
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    Mastered every fight except the Ultimate, and can't beat the Ultimate because I just don't have enough good SB/SSBs or anything :/

  4. #64
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    My Tidus is 80 and Auron and Lulu are 65 but my FFX cast doesn't have any SB/SSB's...it's brutal. Gonna just bite the 60 stamina and reorganize. Think I'm gonna scrap mages and go full melee with aoes. Also stupidly went in with Shellga instead of Protectga.

  5. #65
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
    Eleven owes me $40 bucks

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    I may try some Shout meta on this in the morning just to see what its like.

  6. #66
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    So unbelievably broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo View Post
    I may try some Shout meta on this in the morning just to see what its like.
    Don't! You'll never go back!

  8. #68
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    Yeah. Haven't tried bonus battles with shout (beat them before I got it), but in the new DU elite dungeons Locke is hitting for 6k each hit with Thief's Revenge outside of his realm. All SSB's hit for 9999. Things die before they get a chance to hurt me, only reason I have a healer for these are for trash mobs in case they get a hit off before I can AoE them to death. Too lazy to s/l.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Mastered every fight except the Ultimate, and can't beat the Ultimate because I just don't have enough good SB/SSBs or anything :/
    I initially tried a mage-centric party but I was ultimately more successful and stable with a couple of melee using synergy weapons (Celebration Blade and a Brotherhood) and double healing:

    Terra - Blizzaja, Blindga [Devotion]
    Cloud - Tempo Flurry, Drain Strike [Dragoon's Determination]
    Tidus - Tempo Flurry, Lifesiphon [Ace Striker]
    Mog - Curaga, Dispel [Dr. Mog's Teachings - Heroic Harmony]
    Garnet - Curaja, Protectga [Mako Might - Divine Guardian]
    RW: Stoneskin II

    I had Holiday Mittens on Cloud for the attack boost (no SBs other than his default), and a Dragon Armlet on Tidus to get Shellga up as soon as he was able to generate enough meter for it. The only AoE damage I had was from Spiral Cut, which wasn't that amazing because I was only removing Not-So-Mighty Guard from Leblanc initially to try to kill her as quickly as possible. Divine Guardian was very useful and I'd probably have picked it over SG/SSII as the RW if I didn't just get it. I only used Heroic Harmony once at the beginning, but I'm pretty sure I would have been fine without it. Double healing helped survive the initial bullshit, but towards the end they had less to do; putting Retaliate on Cloud instead of Drain Strike might have been a better choice as I was also running low on melee ability uses.

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    The one thing that I learned from this ultimate was don't put abilities that can miss on chars with crucial SB's. I lost 60 stam when Ormi ohko'd my entire party as I was recasting SSII. I had slowga on Y'sh and one missed proc made me recast it a turn late.

    I had him down to a sliver of HP too.

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    Cake Mix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teorem View Post
    I initially tried a mage-centric party but I was ultimately more successful and stable with a couple of melee using synergy weapons (Celebration Blade and a Brotherhood) and double healing:

    Terra - Blizzaja, Blindga [Devotion]
    Cloud - Tempo Flurry, Drain Strike [Dragoon's Determination]
    Tidus - Tempo Flurry, Lifesiphon [Ace Striker]
    Mog - Curaga, Dispel [Dr. Mog's Teachings - Heroic Harmony]
    Garnet - Curaja, Protectga [Mako Might - Divine Guardian]
    RW: Stoneskin II

    I had Holiday Mittens on Cloud for the attack boost (no SBs other than his default), and a Dragon Armlet on Tidus to get Shellga up as soon as he was able to generate enough meter for it. The only AoE damage I had was from Spiral Cut, which wasn't that amazing because I was only removing Not-So-Mighty Guard from Leblanc initially to try to kill her as quickly as possible. Divine Guardian was very useful and I'd probably have picked it over SG/SSII as the RW if I didn't just get it. I only used Heroic Harmony once at the beginning, but I'm pretty sure I would have been fine without it. Double healing helped survive the initial bullshit, but towards the end they had less to do; putting Retaliate on Cloud instead of Drain Strike might have been a better choice as I was also running low on melee ability uses.
    My issue is mostly I just signed up around the time of the Fenrir Overdrive for Cloud event (didn't get it, of course) and have had bad luck on banners I've been able to pull on. I've gotten a couple decent things (like the shield for Agrias) but overall haven't had the best of luck. I farmed orbfest a good bit and was able to hone some stuff, but I still can't really hone my 4* Magics higher than like R2 or my R4 Spellblades so I did the R3 stuff. Just not enough. And since I lack real good SBs.. I just can't survive well enough while doing burst.

    Guess i just need to focus on farming good orb days and continue to do my story.

  12. #72
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    Mastered, but lost 2 medals for damage and 1 for actions. Did anyone else have issues targeting specific people in this fight - as in actually clicking on the screen and it not registering? That's what caused me the most headaches. It's like they had weird Seymour-esque click boxes.

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    This fight is absolutely ridiculous. I have never had this kind of trouble with an ultimate. Blind does absolutely nothing. Fatboy is gonna one shot everyone through SG with his shield even blinded. If he's not doing that, then the gunner is spaming his multi shot while Leblance is spamming no lost love. There is no way to mitigate and heal through this much damage.

  14. #74
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Make sure you bring reliable blind for ultimate or it's really going to suck

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    I am using blind shot and blind. Even with them I am getting hit by their abilities for 2-3k/pop across every single ability. Blind is useless it mitigates nothing. Most of the time I am getting one shot by constant spam. No lost love softens them up, then here comes multi shot/shield to finish someone off. There is no break between anything to heal up.

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    Member since 2006 and still can't think of a title.
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    Something is wrong if shield is hitting for 2k with protect and stoneskin. That was only hitting for about 800 and once I lost ss, i just did a quick round of defends then back to fighting.

  17. #77
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    If he's talking about Ormi's Concussive Blast that he uses at lower HP, I can believe it. Otherwise, I do agree that blind's efficacy is questionable for some of their moves.

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    Here is my typical opening rounds. No one is ready so someone eats 3-4k from an attack. Yuna finally gets protect up. Damage Leblanc to force the draw fire. Blind shot. If it lands continue. MG8 (I switched). Banish strike Leblanc. Try to burn her down. Try to heal other person up before they die. Someone else now eats 3k, usually multiple combined with no lost love/fan. I am starting from behind on all of these and since there are only 2 walls in the game and I have neither and all my curagas are the weak shared ones I am pretty much giving up on Ultimates. I am forced to spend mythril or like that last 4 hrs save loading only to get murdered in 1 round when i get them to 10%. AoE is the worst thing to bring to this fight, I found that much out. Changed to melee party. Not doing much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    My issue is mostly I just signed up around the time of the Fenrir Overdrive for Cloud event (didn't get it, of course) and have had bad luck on banners I've been able to pull on. I've gotten a couple decent things (like the shield for Agrias) but overall haven't had the best of luck. I farmed orbfest a good bit and was able to hone some stuff, but I still can't really hone my 4* Magics higher than like R2 or my R4 Spellblades so I did the R3 stuff. Just not enough. And since I lack real good SBs.. I just can't survive well enough while doing burst.

    Guess i just need to focus on farming good orb days and continue to do my story.
    Can you list out your higher level characters, better-honed abilities and the SBs you do have? I know I've benefit a few times here from others' insight when I've struggled for damage and survival problems (which seems like virtually every Ultimate lately).

  20. #80
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladen Ansgar View Post
    I am using blind shot and blind. Even with them I am getting hit by their abilities for 2-3k/pop across every single ability. Blind is useless it mitigates nothing. Most of the time I am getting one shot by constant spam. No lost love softens them up, then here comes multi shot/shield to finish someone off. There is no break between anything to heal up.
    Blind is so you can actually attack the other 2 party members instead of the PLD (Who has to die last as one of the triggers).

    I was referring to bringing blind for that purpose

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