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  1. #761
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    It's all luck based. I was able to complete a harp last time and I had only been playing since middle of Street Fighter event and I sure as heck don't chalk that up to skill. I saw posts from people who basically emptied the treasure pool before they got the weapon.

  2. #762
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    I am in the same position with random wipes being annoying and frustrating. My wind team has 31-32k and my Anat is only like lv35 so obviously I'm not doing quite as well but I can get the VH down to about 60-70% solo. Sometimes more if lucky. But it takes a whiiiiiiiile and a lot of focus which is a bit annoying.

    I just got back to back Ygg SSR swords from hosting and I've farmed 2 SSR guns from Volh Manah or whatever the fuck the earth not-primal is in the past 48 hours. In terms of SSR per time invested, GW seems crappy, especially considering I have a 0% chance at the character anytime soon.

  3. #763
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    My team was around 32k at the start of GW (completed Gun and surprise ticket helped bring it up to 36k now) and I still finished my weapon relatively quickly. For me it was all about doing small pulls and not hoarding my tickets. Rolling 100 times is a waste if the gun "pops" on the 5th server roll. I would roll after every single fight, and actually got my 4th gun on an 8-token roll.

    I also found that spending EP on VH Eyeballs for meats and popping my own Extreme bosses was a lot more honors-efficient for me, personally. I would pop all my buffs, get a few solid attack rounds in, then CFH around the first Diamond Attack round. By that point, the debuffs that the zerg hordes threw on the boss vastly increased my own survivability and let me deal enough additional damage to walk away with ~250k medals per fight.

    I never MVP'd an Extreme, but when the Red Chests turned out to be water scrolls 90% of the time I didn't really care.

  4. #764
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    Ya, well, the problem with eye EP farming is the shit dies fast and your queue gets stuck for extremely long periods of time with a VH Audhumla that nobody will join and finish off, and the others won't use an elixer to get it over with. Big waste of time, but ya, most efficient too.

  5. #765
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    Granblue Fantasy (Android/iOS)

    Turns out, that with a few well-timed (lucky) entice procs, it's actually possible!

    This just happened like 5 minutes ago.



    Had to use 1 revive (from pulls) right as I snapped this picture, but he had less than 12k HP left with no revives used. Died on first auto attack after I got up. Was 130k honors for the solo.

    Edit:

    Party and stuff
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  6. #766
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    The 50 silver merits are probably enough of a bottleneck that unless you're playing hardcore, you won't be able to even awaken your GW weapon until a few months in. So I don't think it's a huge priority for most people.

    At the end of the day, it's a game, so if you feel anything is too tedious, then don't do it. Forcing yourself to play any given way will just burn you out.

  7. #767
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakron View Post
    The 50 silver merits are probably enough of a bottleneck that unless you're playing hardcore, you won't be able to even awaken your GW weapon until a few months in. So I don't think it's a huge priority for most people.

    At the end of the day, it's a game, so if you feel anything is too tedious, then don't do it. Forcing yourself to play any given way will just burn you out.
    1300 tickets and no weapon, and I've already collected about 60% of the tickets I can get through loot rewards.. Ya, no fun.

    Neither is Magna weapon grinding. The standard gameplay is fun, but the reward, for your effort, is a big pile of shit.

    Also, I don't understand why I didn't qualify for the 500K crew/30K individual prelim, and the 300K individual prelim Valor badges. Do they use a different counting system or something, because I know I had way over 300K total honor contribution on day one and I'm pretty sure the crew had 500K as well.

  8. #768
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    Is anyone else past mission 50? Shit was hard as fuck. Like harder than anything else I've done in the game yet. Took me forever to clear it.

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    I am, but I can't remember if it was before or after I got Yoda. I've been stuck at 52 for about a month now. It looks about as hard as Yggdrasil Omega. I can beat it with elixirs, just haven't really cared to for now.

  10. #770
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakron View Post
    I am, but I can't remember if it was before or after I got Yoda. I've been stuck at 52 for about a month now. It looks about as hard as Yggdrasil Omega. I can beat it with elixirs, just haven't really cared to for now.
    Ygg Omega was hard but I think I cleared it faster than 50. 50 has some insta-wipe mechanic if you dont take it from 25% to dead in one turn. I have Holy Saber maxed from some other shit I needed it for, but I don't have a (reasonably decent) fire weapon HS can use so I couldn't just cheese it with mitigation (and using HS makes it so slow that pre-25 starts to be a problem keeping up with healing).

    Slightly related and also annoying: I like playing Ogre a lot, and Hermit is good because of drop+ fire wand, but the difficulty ramp-up on solo fights just due to going as not-DF is ridiculous. I did the first 75% of my GW fights as Ogre for my earth team, and while I was still able to reliably clear stuff and do damage, the second I caved and switched to DF it was fucking easy mode. Yeah some other jobs are good for raids/co-op, but unless you severely overlevel or whale or yoda, solo content basically requires DF.

  11. #771
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    I'm on chapter 51 and shit got real. 50 was a pain, I ended up failing it a bunch of times and boosting the bonus to max and then was able to beat it fairly easy. But this, I got crushed and didn't see much point in repeating the process.

    Also decided to spend 1600 or so tickets tonight all at once, 10 at a time. That was a terrible idea. Took about 1500 to get my first weapon, my beginner's luck is over. Hadn't used a single one until now, took forever to use up all the items.

  12. #772
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    I will say that one thing GW is great for is summon leveling fodder; that's mostly why I'm continuing with it, as it will get me more power, faster, then anything else atm. Max MLB Anat takes a lot of exp.

  13. #773
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Ygg Omega was hard but I think I cleared it faster than 50. 50 has some insta-wipe mechanic if you dont take it from 25% to dead in one turn. I have Holy Saber maxed from some other shit I needed it for, but I don't have a (reasonably decent) fire weapon HS can use so I couldn't just cheese it with mitigation (and using HS makes it so slow that pre-25 starts to be a problem keeping up with healing).

    Slightly related and also annoying: I like playing Ogre a lot, and Hermit is good because of drop+ fire wand, but the difficulty ramp-up on solo fights just due to going as not-DF is ridiculous. I did the first 75% of my GW fights as Ogre for my earth team, and while I was still able to reliably clear stuff and do damage, the second I caved and switched to DF it was fucking easy mode. Yeah some other jobs are good for raids/co-op, but unless you severely overlevel or whale or yoda, solo content basically requires DF.
    Gravity and Delay are strong, but a lot of it is also the Miserable Mist debuff, which you can EX onto your other jobs. You can always try it with Ogre, and see how it goes. If you have a healer to heal up the extra Ougi attacks you'll take by not going DF, you should come out ahead. Especially if you can Break the boss before any of your guys go down.

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    I've been stuck at 50 for a while, in part because it's hard as fuck, but also because they keep throwing out events I'd rather do >.>

  15. #775
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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphTheDwarf View Post
    I'm on chapter 51 and shit got real. 50 was a pain, I ended up failing it a bunch of times and boosting the bonus to max and then was able to beat it fairly easy. But this, I got crushed and didn't see much point in repeating the process.

    Also decided to spend 1600 or so tickets tonight all at once, 10 at a time. That was a terrible idea. Took about 1500 to get my first weapon, my beginner's luck is over. Hadn't used a single one until now, took forever to use up all the items.
    I actually just went 1/2 on this fight. Party below, maybe it will help. Debuffs, debuffs, debuffs. Also MLB Grande friend.


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    Balancing:
    http://grancypher.com/2016/05/26/jun...ncing-details/

    The only important part:
    One particular feature that they intend to bring out as soon as possible is the ability to set your waifu/husband “favourite” character. The character you set will not only receive an bonus to their Attack and HP, they will also appear on your Job image when you post to Twitter. This is due to be implemented in late July.
    Other stuff:
    http://grancypher.com/2016/05/25/gra...-2016-edition/

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    Anyone having issues loading the game? Stuck in an infinite loop white background loading. Was on just fine an hr or so

  18. #778
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanecyclone View Post
    Anyone having issues loading the game? Stuck in an infinite loop white background loading. Was on just fine an hr or so
    I've had it wig out on me before, and needed to restart my browser.

  19. #779
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    Do you need to have an Omega set as your aura summon to get the benefit of Omega weapon skills in pool or no?

    Edit: and if not, what is better for wind? MLB Anat or MLB Tiamat?

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    The weapon skills work naturally without an Omega summon aura. The aura simply increases their effectiveness. So, for example, a level 10 SSR attack skill is +15% attack. A level 10 SSR attack skill with an MLB Omega aura is +30% attack (+100% effectiveness).

    edit: Which means that an MLB Omega summon is only better than a basic elemental summon when your base Attack+% from Magna skills in your pool exceeds 40%. All Attack+ skills including Magna start at 1% for R, 3% for SR, and 6% for SSR, and gain 1% effectiveness per skill level.

    edit in response to your edit: Since MLB Anat has an 80% attack boost, you're looking at a really steep pool requirement before MLB Tiamat would edge it out. We're talking at least 6 max attack skill Magna SSRs.

    Once you take support summon auras into account, it's possible for a combo Anat+Tiamat to edge out double Anats. I'm not sure how those multipliers interact with each other.

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