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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post

    edit 2: In hindsight I realize this all falls under the obvious category, but it's sooo muuch grinding. Does your Earth team have enough Balance-type characters to get max benefits from a Cosmos Sword?
    Late to the discussion but Balance cosmos is useless for earth since they have 0 balance SSRs. Since Attack cosmos is probably one of the worst things in the game the choice is between DF, PC and HE. HE and DF bonuses are meh so I'd go with PC in case you ever get Summer Vira or xmas Claris. Unless he gets it for future light pool but then uh...good luck with that. I know people who get 15-20 chev red chests a day and barely have 2 MLB swords counting the 1 you can buy from shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobta View Post
    Late to the discussion but Balance cosmos is useless for earth since they have 0 balance SSRs. Since Attack cosmos is probably one of the worst things in the game the choice is between DF, PC and HE. HE and DF bonuses are meh so I'd go with PC in case you ever get Summer Vira or xmas Claris. Unless he gets it for future light pool but then uh...good luck with that. I know people who get 15-20 chev red chests a day and barely have 2 MLB swords counting the 1 you can buy from shop.
    Most of these words went over my head.

    So Cosmos Sword is balance type I'm guessing? I thought it could be any type? But admittedly I know next to nothing about Cosmos weapons. Attack Cosmos is bad? DF, PC, HE?

    I think I'm reading right that lol dont do Earth Cosmos weapon, but if so, okay then what exists after capping my Ygg swords? "Switch to a real element"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Most of these words went over my head.

    So Cosmos Sword is balance type I'm guessing? I thought it could be any type? But admittedly I know next to nothing about Cosmos weapons. Attack Cosmos is bad? DF, PC, HE?

    I think I'm reading right that lol dont do Earth Cosmos weapon, but if so, okay then what exists after capping my Ygg swords? "Switch to a real element"?
    Every cosmo weapon boosts the attack/hp of the same type of weapon in your pool by 30%. So if you have cosmo sword then every sword in your pool is boosted by 30%

    There's 5 types of cosmo weapon. Balance, Attack, Special, Defender, Healer. Each one gives a bonus to that type of character. Some elements have a no-brainer one like balance for wind and light. Earth has nothing really notable besides Attack but the bonus is terrible since it reduces the HP of all Attack type characters by 40%.

    The two ways to get a cosmo are: Deal chests(only appears if your guild was the host of grande) or buying whichever one you want for 30 horns which is 150 feathers.

    The end-game earth pool would be like MH+7 ygg swords+cosmo sword+ baha HL sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobta View Post
    Every cosmo weapon boosts the attack/hp of the same type of weapon in your pool by 30%. So if you have cosmo sword then every sword in your pool is boosted by 30%

    There's 5 types of cosmo weapon. Balance, Attack, Special, Defender, Healer. Each one gives a bonus to that type of character. Some elements have a no-brainer one like balance for wind and light. Earth has nothing really notable besides Attack but the bonus is terrible since it reduces the HP of all Attack type characters by 40%.

    The two ways to get a cosmo are: Deal chests(only appears if your guild was the host of grande) or buying whichever one you want for 30 horns which is 150 feathers.

    The end-game earth pool would be like MH+7 ygg swords+cosmo sword+ baha HL sword.
    Okay, thanks!

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    2.4m honors and just got the last SSR weapon I needed as a drop. Not sure if I want to keep going to 3m to get materials and food or not. Been flooded with friend requests lately, really wish there was a better way to organize and manage the friend list.

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    GG I'll be free for the night in 30ish minutes so can message me when you're ready if you wanna farm again.

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    Count me in on the next one if you have room. Just need a general time; also willing to jump in on splitting the AP pots.

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    So woke up this morning and immediately went to try Cocytus extreme and had zero difficulty with it with new Earth grid/team. Very exciting...or at least it would be if I gave a shit about Cocytus and any of his weapons.

    But hey...higher chance for fodder?

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    I have been desperately trying to justify doing the elemental summons to myself for a while now just to break up the magna grind but it seems like a wash on each of my elements. Fire grid doesn't benefit from Halberd at all. I have a L100 Colo Omega and see plenty of Athena supports so MLB Ifrit is rather unnecessary. Corow is absolute garbage because her aura affects the Normal multiplier instead of Elemental like 99% of summons. Then I have MLB Anat for my "I have a Fire team so I may as well blow up Tiamat for fun" Wind team.

    I'm at the point where I may just blow up Sagittarius for the silver certs and skill fodder, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I have been desperately trying to justify doing the elemental summons to myself for a while now just to break up the magna grind but it seems like a wash on each of my elements. Fire grid doesn't benefit from Halberd at all. I have a L100 Colo Omega and see plenty of Athena supports so MLB Ifrit is rather unnecessary. Corow is absolute garbage because her aura affects the Normal multiplier instead of Elemental like 99% of summons. Then I have MLB Anat for my "I have a Fire team so I may as well blow up Tiamat for fun" Wind team.

    I'm at the point where I may just blow up Sagittarius for the silver certs and skill fodder, lol.
    the first 2 SSR weapons for each element are really cheap and easy to get at 100% rate for Bahamut skill fodder, which is nice. I used like 5 SSR from elementals in my spear. I've been trying to finish MLB spear because why not + I don't farm Colo nor do I have a lv100. Gun is good for Earth for now. Cocy is a good sub for water team maybe? Sag/Corow are useless but can be broken down / weapons are fodder / SR / silver cert fodder. I'm like halfway to 4-star Diablo because I got lucky on flips on him so I figured why not.

    Also the AP pots, CP, angel queens, and other crap are just nice to snag when possible as another "why not". If you can farm Extreme/Maniac it's worth doing a run or two a day imo if there isn't a good event going on (like now).

    Also I've been 100% out of Ygg Magna pops for weeks. I ride the daily casino + BP + hard fights and still barely get 2 sponsored fights a day if I'm really lucky, so not a ton of AP spent there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    the first 2 SSR weapons for each element are really cheap and easy to get at 100% rate for Bahamut skill fodder, which is nice. I used like 5 SSR from elementals in my spear. I've been trying to finish MLB spear because why not + I don't farm Colo nor do I have a lv100. Gun is good for Earth for now. Cocy is a good sub for water team maybe? Sag/Corow are useless but can be broken down / weapons are fodder / SR / silver cert fodder. I'm like halfway to 4-star Diablo because I got lucky on flips on him so I figured why not.

    Also the AP pots, CP, angel queens, and other crap are just nice to snag when possible as another "why not". If you can farm Extreme/Maniac it's worth doing a run or two a day imo if there isn't a good event going on (like now).

    Also I've been 100% out of Ygg Magna pops for weeks. I ride the daily casino + BP + hard fights and still barely get 2 sponsored fights a day if I'm really lucky, so not a ton of AP spent there.
    Ahh, that'll do it. I've been saving up Lumi pops from the casino for weeks, so I still have over 100 HQ animas to pop now that my Fire team can reliably MVP her. I'm pretty barren on Colo and Tia pops since I've been doing them longer, but I've been trying to hit at least 6 Magnas of some sort per day to cap weekly renown so that uses up a lot of my AP.

    I didn't even think about using the SSRs as fodder, though. That's a great idea. I may try throwing my Earth team and its stat stick grid up against Cocy Ex and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Ahh, that'll do it. I've been saving up Lumi pops from the casino for weeks, so I still have over 100 HQ animas to pop now that my Fire team can reliably MVP her. I'm pretty barren on Colo and Tia pops since I've been doing them longer, but I've been trying to hit at least 6 Magnas of some sort per day to cap weekly renown so that uses up a lot of my AP.

    I didn't even think about using the SSRs as fodder, though. That's a great idea. I may try throwing my Earth team and its stat stick grid up against Cocy Ex and see what happens.
    I don't think I understand Lumi. How do you MVP her? Let alone even do any damage to her whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I don't think I understand Lumi. How do you MVP her? Let alone even do any damage to her whatsoever.
    She has two modes: Defense mode and Offense mode. She starts the fight by entering Defense mode and putting all her buffs/regen up on the first turn. Important note: She will automatically reset to Defense mode any time a new player joins and uses their first attack round. Because of this, I never open the fight until I've either secured MVP or given up on fighting any further because there are good odds the new entrants will fuck up my timings.

    To get her out of Defense mode, you have to Dispel one of her buffs. It doesn't matter which. Any time she's dispelled while in Defense mode, she will clear all of her own buffs and change to Offense mode on the following turn. Offense mode grants her boosted Attack and DA rate, as well as a buff which increases her attack even further based on the number of debuffs on her. She can and will hit for stupid amounts of damage if you try to spam debuffs on her in this mode (I just use Def Down. Attack down is only on her because of Mist and even then I'm not sure it's a net gain for me).

    Above 50% HP, Lumi will use her Ougi to switch back into Defense mode, which will need to be dispelled again. After 50% HP, her Ougi will switch to Sword of Light, which is a strong AoE Light attack. She gets a free use of this at the 50% mark.

    To mitigate a bit of damage, you can Dispel her while she's in Offense mode and she will waste a turn re-applying all of her Offense Mode buffs.

    Because her ougi >50% HP is non-damaging and has a way longer cooldown than Dispel anyways, I don't bother applying Gravity to her since it would just boost her attack. Sometimes I even forgo Slows because her Defense mode is basically 2 free turns of Ougi build for me. I have no good way to handle Sword of Light on Fire-element Dark Fencer, though, so I usually cfh once that's in play.

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    Ok I think I get it, though without mist she was hitting my dark team for much more than with, so I will need to save it next attempt. Thanks!

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    Bahamut popped out a Spear for my Elune team, which currently consists of a whooping one unit...

    I do two Tiamat Magnas a day, and am currently saving the rest for when that team is strong enough to go for other magnas, and after I've rolled my 18K+ crystals on whenever the summer gatcha fest happens. Until then, I'm slowly working towards a GW character. Still planning on going Siete, but it will depend on what I pull after all of my rolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachiko View Post
    Bahamut popped out a Spear for my Elune team, which currently consists of a whooping one unit...

    I do two Tiamat Magnas a day, and am currently saving the rest for when that team is strong enough to go for other magnas, and after I've rolled my 18K+ crystals on whenever the summer gatcha fest happens. Until then, I'm slowly working towards a GW character. Still planning on going Siete, but it will depend on what I pull after all of my rolls.
    What is this "summer gacha fest" and why are you saving so hard for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    What is this "summer gacha fest" and why are you saving so hard for it?
    Swimsuit versions of the characters with new skills and usually in a different element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobta View Post
    Swimsuit versions of the characters with new skills and usually in a different element.
    Is it guaranteed to happen? If so, roughly when? Isn't summer like almost over for the JP?

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    Maybe the end of the next event -- since this one (and presumably that one) features swimsuits and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Is it guaranteed to happen? If so, roughly when? Isn't summer like almost over for the JP?
    Well a bunch of old summer characters are getting small buffs on the 19th so most people think it will happen then. Last year they released 2 SR summer characters in middle of July and then there was 1 new SSR available 1 week at a time for 4~ weeks.

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