May 2016 Version Update - Discussion & Findings

[Tachi]

Completely resisted by Valks? Now that's strange... shouldn't they be dark-based? How can they be completely immune to Lullaby but yet being susceptible (even if not reliably) by Sleep?

Was yours a "resist" message or a "completely resist" one? First would hint you need more macc, second that they're plain immune to Lullaby.

It was a "resist" message. The "completely resists the spell" message is not present everywhere though, I recall it being absent in HTBs for instance. If they are not immune, it would be the first time I see Lullaby getting resisted that much with NT.

[Sechs]

Considering NiTro doubles your macc it's indeed very strange. Were you using your duration set or your macc set?
Could try with Soul Voice up (that also gives a big boost to song macc) but considering it takes 500 merits to enter it's hard to justify it just for a "test".

I don't think this is worth trying anyway.
Even if you could stick it with SV up, NT up, Max Macc build (instead of duration build) they would sleep for only ~240 seconds (less than 4 minutes).
Not sure that would be worth it, sadly.

[Fwahm]

I don't think that fomors actually have high dark resistance.

[Lolwutt]

From what I remember, all aht urgan fomor were immune to lullaby and susceptible to sleep.

[Sechs]

Just confirmed that Fermion Sword is the reward for the Master Trial battle against Alex, Odin & friends.
I seriously hope there's gonna be more rewards to it (and one sword in every pt members' personal pool) or it's seriously gonna breed some very unhappy, bloodlusting customers!

[Loona]

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That was generally what I was getting at. While the too didn't outwardly seem to get along, their conflict was still for the betterment of the world and, in turn, they opted to put aside their differences to aid the player here. I certainly wouldn't call them BFFs after this, but with the player proving they can ward off the Cloud, it isn't much of a stretch that they'd like to challenge the player for funsies. I'd chalk up any lacking lore bits to the game's current dev state, otherwise.

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But wasn't the conflict that kept the Cloud of Darkness away based on Light clashing with Dark, as Altana herself said? Then what's the reason for Odin and Alexander to cooperate against something else (in this case, an adventurer that got CoD to manifest physically to punch her in the face)?
Before the CoD fight Alexander even says a moment like that (presumably their coorperation) would not happen again in the player's lifetime - maybe the story designers and combat designers weren't quite on the same page?
I guess they could always claims that the Vana'diel elemental forces might actually work better together - IIRC, fire, thunder and wind are light-aligned, while water, earth and ice are dark-aligned, so light+dark together work as concentrated "vana'dielness" to keep the winds of time running by having them clash against peak ability adventurers (who have beaten or equaled most challenges in the world so far) who were able to keep CoD at bay. That way the analogy to keeping the game alive as long as players have something to fight still holds...

[dasva]

Just confirmed that Fermion Sword is the reward for the Master Trial battle against Alex, Odin & friends.
I seriously hope there's gonna be more rewards to it (and one sword in every pt members' personal pool) or it's seriously gonna breed some very unhappy, bloodlusting customers!

Of course there will be more rewards... in subsequent master trials

[Kensagaku]

Just confirmed that Fermion Sword is the reward for the Master Trial battle against Alex, Odin & friends.
I seriously hope there's gonna be more rewards to it (and one sword in every pt members' personal pool) or it's seriously gonna breed some very unhappy, bloodlusting customers!

...Please tell me you're not serious, that the whole point of this is to get a level 1 lockstyle sword.

[Tarage]

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But wasn't the conflict that kept the Cloud of Darkness away based on Light clashing with Dark, as Altana herself said? Then what's the reason for Odin and Alexander to cooperate against something else (in this case, an adventurer that got CoD to manifest physically to punch her in the face)?
Before the CoD fight Alexander even says a moment like that (presumably their coorperation) would not happen again in the player's lifetime - maybe the story designers and combat designers weren't quite on the same page?
I guess they could always claims that the Vana'diel elemental forces might actually work better together - IIRC, fire, thunder and wind are light-aligned, while water, earth and ice are dark-aligned, so light+dark together work as concentrated "vana'dielness" to keep the winds of time running by having them clash against peak ability adventurers (who have beaten or equaled most challenges in the world so far) who were able to keep CoD at bay. That way the analogy to keeping the game alive as long as players have something to fight still holds...

Am I the only one amused that CoD gets transformed into the wiki entry for a slice of cod?

Also lolswrd

[Lolwutt]

Just confirmed that Fermion Sword is the reward for the Master Trial battle against Alex, Odin & friends.
I seriously hope there's gonna be more rewards to it (and one sword in every pt members' personal pool) or it's seriously gonna breed some very unhappy, bloodlusting customers!

Not saying I don't believe you, but there are no Fermion Sword listed on XIAH owned and the best reports I've seen from this thread haven't even cleared a single valkyrie. Do you have any actual evidence to support this, or just someone who has a sword(that they likely obtained from the anniversary event somehow)?


Edit: Disregard, saw that SE confirmed it. Jesus, how disappointing.

[dasva]

Funny thing was I was joking with my ls saying there would be no real reward just a trophy hey you did it...

[Ophannus]

Whats Fermion Sword look like?

[Karizo]

Whats Fermion Sword look like?

massive disappointment

[NynJa]

Whats Fermion Sword look like?

[Modoru]

Whats Fermion Sword look like?

On a more serious note:

[Spainmail]

Ultra-noob question, as I have not been on the game in a while: Does it look like the abdhaljs seals can be hoarded from month to month?

[dasva]

They are actual items so I don't see why not

[Karizo]

On a more serious note:

someone finally beat it? or .dat mod?

[Tarage]

someone finally beat it? or .dat mod?

Sechs did, he said so earlier in the thread.

[Karizo]

Sechs did, he said so earlier in the thread.

he did? if you're referring to the confirmation of the sword as a reward, that was from SE.

i can't find the post where he said he did