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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Yikes. The deal lost and it was not close.

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    Biggest loss in parliamentary history.

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    R.I.P. the UK

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    Let the nightmare begin. I’m sorry .


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    So no deal, that means hard exit? Or can they just be like we tried cancel brexit?

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    It means this deal isn't gonna happen. What happens next is up in the air. They could do another Brexit vote and stay, they could try and negotiate an extension then another exit deal, they could fuck things all up and miss the deadline and hard exit while whining about how this is so unfair because everyone promised Brexit would be fucking great....we have to wait and see.

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    Hey sorry if its hard to sift through but where do you guys stand on Brexit? Are you for leaving or staying and why do you think that your choice is the better option?

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    Staying is the logical move. Leaving is the idiotic populist move. I'll let you sort out who believes what.

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    -No deal Brexit happens

    -Political and economic collapse

    -US invasion

    -UK becomes a US colony/amusement park under the administration of the Disney East Atlantic Company

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    I guess I stand on the wrong side of BG again. But its okay, its a charged and divisive topic I can go in with an open mind in regards to where you all stand and why.

    I'm mildly shocked The EU is not going to negotiate since in the long term they serve to lose much more from a no-deal Brexit, especially poor Germany if it has to pick up any more slack of UK leaving since they're already contributing the majority to the EU at 19%. I think the EU may even be at risk of heading toward bankrupting because of this exit because the profitable half of the EU is going to have to put on more weight against the unprofitable portion to make up for the loss of the UK's contributions, who while only 9% was the second biggest contributor to the EU behind Germany.

    The UK will have the World Trade Organization rules to fall back on, or any free trade deals the US/Trump have already offered them post-Brexit. It won't be all rainbows and sunshine and there will be difficult times ahead during the "Transitioning" period, but I do think the UK will be better off in the long term getting out of the EU.

    Again if I'm worried for anyone post-Brexit its the remaining EU countries who will bare the economical burden of the UK leaving...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I guess I stand on the wrong side of BG again. But its okay, its a charged and divisive topic I can go in with an open mind in regards to where you all stand and why.

    I'm mildly shocked The EU is not going to negotiate since in the long term they serve to lose much more from a no-deal Brexit, especially poor Germany if it has to pick up any more slack of UK leaving since they're already contributing the majority to the EU at 19%. I think the EU may even be at risk of heading toward bankrupting because of this exit because the profitable half of the EU is going to have to put on more weight against the unprofitable portion to make up for the loss of the UK's contributions, who while only 9% was the second biggest contributor to the EU behind Germany.

    The UK will have the World Trade Organization rules to fall back on, or any free trade deals the US/Trump have already offered them post-Brexit. It won't be all rainbows and sunshine and there will be difficult times ahead during the "Transitioning" period, but I do think the UK will be better off in the long term getting out of the EU.

    Again if I'm worried for anyone post-Brexit its the remaining EU countries who will bare the economical burden of the UK leaving...
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    Staying is the logical move. Leaving is the idiotic populist move. I'll let you sort out who believes what.
    L O fucking L

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    So looking forward to the news, this is going to be great.

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    I'm sure it'll be doom and gloom and the apocalypse is near nonsense per usual.

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    IDK, the pound strengthened after this vote because maybe they won't Brexit.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/inves...ets/index.html

    A trillion dollars left the UK already just from banks shifting their money around so it can stay in the EU.

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    At this point, they should just give in to popular demand and have another vote. First vote was probably the greatest political miscalculation in history, so this vote by the parliament would be a rather fitting end. Then again, I still don't believe any votes of this magnitude should be handled by masses that are most certainly subject to populist propaganda and every single means of manipulation under the sun.

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    Having a quick vote would probably not give Russia enough time to drum up anti-immigrant sentiment/apathy again, which is really what drove the first Brexit vote.

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    Man those sneaky Russian's, IDK why they would even want an Army or Nukes or anything to become a world power when apparently all they have to do to rule the world is use Facebook ads.

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    If your enemy is the institution of democracy, bombs are much less corrupting than popular sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    Staying is the logical move. Leaving is the idiotic populist move. I'll let you sort out who believes what.
    I mean, they had a vote and the people made a choice, they really have to leave if Democracy is supposed to mean anything.

    No matter how dumb it was.

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    Yes it makes it seem much less like paranoia when you put it that way. Sorry Byrth but i simply won't accept "Democratic votes I don't like are Russian propaganda". I'm far more inclined to believe it the result of ignorance or half-education than a 4D chess propaganda machine from Ivan Ivanosky.

    I'm just saying have some faith in your average every day stupidity/apathy/ignorance and the countries own propaganda machines, they work just fine.

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