SNES Classic - Sold Out Everywhere, Round 2

[Nitsuki]

Fuck it, i just want to simply add the games that i personally think am missing on the snes library, nothing else, it’s less than 50 games for me, mostly rpgs. So i’m down to do this soft mod, what are the chances of bricking?

[Roranora]

almost zero, i don't think anyone has bricked one to a state that cannot be restored

[Roranora]

the RDS case finally has an amazon page, if anyone desires or requires this retailer. preorder now, available Dec 11th

https://www.amazon.com/Super-Classic.../dp/B077CX9D44

[Spider-Dan]

I feel like #2 is more like 40-90 games, but I'd prefer to allow sufficient save state space. It seems 150 games (assuming all SNES rather than tinier NES titles) is very near no save state ability.

Looking at my phone, I have 883 zipped SNES ROMs (definitely some duplicates in there that I need to clean up, now that I look at it) that take up 777MB. Compression rate seems to hover around 50%, so that works out to 1.55GB, or ~1.7MB per uncompressed ROM. Using those numbers, 300MB (with no save state space) would be 170 ROMs.

Obviously in practice, ROM sizes vary wildly. Mario World, Pilotwings, and Mario Kart are all 524KB, while DKC, Mario RPG, and SF Alpha 2 are 4MB.

It's not. You'll have to come to terms with either:

1) Having 300 ish games and little-to-no suspend/snapshot ability (suspend points are 8MB a piece).

or

2) Having about 100-150 very good titles, and the ability to have a healthy number of suspend points.

Pick the 2nd option, you'll thank me later.

For me, the issue is more that I like to have the pretty boxart and such, instead of a Dreamcast-emu-era text list of ROMs. So even if I pare down the list to top 50 for SNES/Genesis/NES - which isn't as easy as it sounds! - I also have to leave room for assets.

I just don't think it's worth opening the box and leaving retail config if the only thing I get to do is add 100 more SNES games. From my perspective, at a bare minimum I'd need to add NES, and I'd really like to add Genesis too. NES/SNES/Genesis is the holy trinity of console cartridge gaming, and so my target is a config that allows me to have all three with boxart. So I'll probably need to wait for the external USB hack to become available.

[Kaisha]

I'll just be part of the crowd waiting on external USB support, since once that's up I'm sure someone will write a bootloader that does normal SNES Classic when nothing is attached, and then your custom library when booted up with one attached.

[Roranora]

So even if I pare down the list to top 50 for SNES/Genesis/NES - which isn't as easy as it sounds! - I also have to leave room for assets.

Turtles IV and CT all you really need for SNES. Zeldas, SMB3, and River City Ransom for NES. Gain Ground and Beyond Oasis for Genesis, done. :D


Nah seriously it is tricky to choose.

[Nitsuki]

The 5 games i can think of off the top of my head are:

Chrono Trigger
Seiken Densetsu 3
Terranigma
Secret of Evermore
Super Mario All-Stars

Another i can think of is DKC2 and 3, Breath of fire 1 and 2, and Lufia 1 and 2.

I know there’s plenty more, but those would be my top priorities.

[Spider-Dan]

In my case, one of the things that make a "top 50" hard is choosing between including legendary games that I happen to dislike (e.g. Metroids, Metal Gears, Phantasy Stars) and mediocre games that I personally played the hell out of. I doubt many others would want Godzilla, Yo! Noid, Wrath of the Black Manta, Astyanax, Totally Rad, Kings of the Beach, Guardian Legend, or Shatterhand in their top 50 for NES, but I would want all of them on mine.

[vagus]

Killer Instict


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[Sho]

Looking at my phone, I have 883 zipped SNES ROMs (definitely some duplicates in there that I need to clean up, now that I look at it) that take up 777MB. Compression rate seems to hover around 50%, so that works out to 1.55GB, or ~1.7MB per uncompressed ROM. Using those numbers, 300MB (with no save state space) would be 170 ROMs.

Obviously in practice, ROM sizes vary wildly. Mario World, Pilotwings, and Mario Kart are all 524KB, while DKC, Mario RPG, and SF Alpha 2 are 4MB.


For me, the issue is more that I like to have the pretty boxart and such, instead of a Dreamcast-emu-era text list of ROMs. So even if I pare down the list to top 50 for SNES/Genesis/NES - which isn't as easy as it sounds! - I also have to leave room for assets.

I just don't think it's worth opening the box and leaving retail config if the only thing I get to do is add 100 more SNES games. From my perspective, at a bare minimum I'd need to add NES, and I'd really like to add Genesis too. NES/SNES/Genesis is the holy trinity of console cartridge gaming, and so my target is a config that allows me to have all three with boxart. So I'll probably need to wait for the external USB hack to become available.

I feel you there! On my end, I wasn't looking much into making it a multi emulation box -- I just limited my own to about 130 of the very best SNES games I could think of. HD SNES on the go when I start travelling next year, if you know what I mean.

Speaking of travel:



8Bitdo is finally coming out with a pair of SNES controllers for the device. As a lover of their products, I highly recommend you guys pick some up, as the build quality is amazing and nearly 1:1 of an actual SNES OEM controller. The only caveat for this particular controller is the fact that it'll only be able to sync up with it's paired receiver. If nothing else, pick it up because Wireless Controller > Wired Controller in 2017, lol.

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For a list of SNES games, I went with this for my TOP TOP games:

ActRaiser
Chrono Trigger
Donkey Kong Country 2/3
Final Fight Guy/2/3
Goof Troop
Joe & Mac
Gradius III
EVO
Earthworm Jim 1/2
Final Fantasy IV/V
The Firemen
Hagane
Harvest Moon
Illusion of Gaia
Ken Griffey Jr. Major League Baseball
Killer Instinct
Kirby Dream Land 3
Mega Man 7/X2/X3/Soccer/& Bass
Mortal Kombat 2
NBA Jam TE
NHL 96
Lufia I/II
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
Phalanx
Pocky & Rocky I/II
Rock & Roll Racing
Saturday Night Slam Masters
Secret of Mana 2
Stunt Race FX
Super Bomberman 1/2/3/4/5
Super Mario All Stars
Sim City
Soul Blazer
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Super R-Type
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time
TMNT: Tournament Fighters
Terranigma
Tetris & Dr. Mario
Tetris Attack
Top Gear
UN Squadron

I do admit however, it is pretty hard to choose SNES games, when you don't even consider some of the JP Super Famicom ones. However, at least 400 of the 720 or so US titles are crap and shovelware at least, lol.

[Spider-Dan]

That's a pretty good list. I'd personally want to add:

7th Saga
Adventures of Batman & Robin
Aladdin
Breath of Fire
Demon's Crest
FF Mystic Quest
Flashback
Mystical Ninja
Madden 94
NBA Live 95
Pilotwings
Rival Turf/Brawl Brothers/Peace Keepers
Run Saber
Super Double Dragon
Super Star Wars/ESB/ROTJ
Tiny Toons: Buster Busts Loose
Top Gear 2
Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Add mine to yours and the stock games, and we're basically at 100 already.

[Sho]

That's a pretty good list. I'd personally want to add:

7th Saga
Adventures of Batman & Robin
Aladdin
Breath of Fire
Demon's Crest
FF Mystic Quest
Flashback
Mystical Ninja
Madden 94
NBA Live 95
Pilotwings
Rival Turf/Brawl Brothers/Peace Keepers
Run Saber
Super Double Dragon
Super Star Wars/ESB/ROTJ
Tiny Toons: Buster Busts Loose
Top Gear 2
Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Add mine to yours and the stock games, and we're basically at 100 already.

Damn, you got some quality gems in yours too. Pilotwings/Zombies/Aladdin alone consumed many of my childhood hours before I came upon more and more JRPGs.

Fuck that entire Super Star Wars series however, lmao.

[Daydreamer]

I thought I was the only one that liked Ken Griffey Junior MLB. Amazing choice.

To add a few more to your list
-Secret of Evermore
-Sunset Riders
-Fan translation of mother 3 (ok it's not SNES but it's so easy to install on the snes classic)

[Moss]

Man I was so disappointed DKC2 wasn't included, probably the defining game of my early gaming

Can't download it on normal 3DS either, or switch. Such BS

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[Destinye]

Damn, you got some quality gems in yours too. Pilotwings/Zombies/Aladdin alone consumed many of my childhood hours before I came upon more and more JRPGs.

Fuck that entire Super Star Wars series however, lmao.

I played Pilotwings a bit, never fully because I wasn't good at it so I didn't learn until recently you go from derpy trainee to basically rambo in the later half of the game.

[Sho]

I thought I was the only one that liked Ken Griffey Junior MLB. Amazing choice.

To add a few more to your list
-Secret of Evermore
-Sunset Riders
-Fan translation of mother 3 (ok it's not SNES but it's so easy to install on the snes classic)

The game really is god damn amazing. I'm not even a fan of baseball or was as a child, but my original game has easily racked up over hundreds of hours with my little brother and friends. We used to hold sleep-over tournaments and get so hype over it. Home run derby tournaments even more so. Only rule was to not use the Mariners, lol.

Also I lived a childhood in which I never played Sunset Riders. Q_Q

I played Pilotwings a bit, never fully because I wasn't good at it so I didn't learn until recently you go from derpy trainee to basically rambo in the later half of the game.

Pilotwings was actually my 2nd game for the console, next to Mario Kart and World (which came with the system of course). I've only ever beaten the game once from beginning to end, but seeing that fat ass dude-trainer crying at the end was so satisfying, after how he treats you like shit throughout the later half of the game. I don't blame anyone for not finishing the game, those Helicopter missions alone were soul-crushing in terms of difficulty.

[Anoat]

Man I was so disappointed DKC2 wasn't included, probably the defining game of my early gaming

Can't download it on normal 3DS either, or switch. Such BS

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Rare doesn't play nice with Nintendo anymore, a real shame cause we'll probably never see an updated version of DKC2, DKC3, or DK64 until they do.

[Yimoa]

Blades of steel and bases loaded were my jam at 5-6 years old.. good ol' days..

[Spider-Dan]

It's funny... out of the 9 games I kept at the end of the NES era from my original 30+ game NES collection, 5 of them are Tecmo Super Bowl, Baseball Stars, Blades of Steel, Kings of the Beach, and Ultimate Basketball. Even as a pre-teen, I was always about head-to-head competition!

[Moridam]

bases loaded 1-3 were the bane of my existence as a child, i was always trying to grind on FF and my older brothers would kick me off the NES to play BL, lol.