2016 USA Presidential election thread II: And. Here. We. Go!

[Fondue]

I'd love to understand why people think (((538))), politi(((fact)))), and friends are any less biased than any other media outlet at this point. Everybody has an agenda and its not hard to find in most cases

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that pic gets longer everytime I see it

[Quicklet]

Get out of here with that antisemitic bullshit.

[archibaldcrane]

I'd love to understand why people think (((538))), politi(((fact)))), and friends are any less biased than any other media outlet at this point. Everybody has an agenda and its not hard to find in most cases

Probably because we don't believe there's a vast Jew conspiracy in the media.

[Fondue]

well even if there isnt- those websites are still biased lol

[thetruepandagod]

well even if there isnt- those websites are still biased lol

Classic polifacts.

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[Qalbert]

[Galkaeater]

Speaking of jews

http://forward.com/scribe/352463/how...ican-daughter/

I have a terrible recurring dream. I’m hiding in the attic with Anne Frank and she’s calling me “Kitty.” I tell her that I have to go, I don’t know where my daughter is, and she turns to me and tells me that we can’t go anywhere. We are in hiding and we must stay this way until the war is over. All of a sudden, I hear boots on the stairs and the door swings open and it’s Donald J. Trump — only he’s naked, wearing a swastika sweatband on his head, and he says, “I think Islam hates us.”

I wake up sweating. I had this same dream for three consecutive nights in a row — only every night when Trump shows up in the nude wearing his Third Reich workout headband, he says something different. The second night of the dream he says, “I’m deporting your daughter even though she was born in New York.” The third night he looks at Anne Frank and says, “you’re fired.”

[archibaldcrane]

well even if there isnt- those websites are still biased lol

538 gives Trump the best odds by far of all the poll-driven election prediction sites.

[thetruepandagod]

Speaking of jews

http://forward.com/scribe/352463/how...ican-daughter/

I... hmm.

Ok.

[Krandor]

Nate himself definitely isn't a fan of Trump, but I would still trust his model for the most part. People dig up his all his articles about how Trump wouldn't win the nom, apparently forgetting that most wrote him off from the start as little more then a joke candidate.

[Aerin]

Classic polifacts.

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You don't even have to dig to see what's wrong with these pics and how they distort what's actually being reported into some kind of bias. Here's just one example.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...lims-entering/

The first problem with the Center for Security policy poll has to do with methodology. It was an online, opt-in survey, which tend to produce less reliable samples because respondents choose to participate. In traditional polling methods, everyone in a population has a chance of being selected for the survey, meaning the results generally reflect the country’s demographics.

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There may be further problems with the poll, including the reality that many American Muslims are immigrants and not fluent in English, and that the survey asked leading questions with limited response choices, according to a critique by the Washington Post’s Philip Bump.

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Trump is referring to a poll conducted by the Center for Security Policy. However, polling experts raise numerous questions about the validity of the poll’s results, including its "opt-in" methodology and the dubiously large percentages of respondents who said they were unaware of ISIS or al-Qaida. Moreover, an official with the Center for Security Policy cautioned against generalizing the poll results to the entire Muslim-American community.

Another survey, which experts consider credible, found levels about half as high as what the Center for Security Policy poll found.

[Mertron]

Nate himself definitely isn't a fan of Trump, but I would still trust his model for the most part. People dig up his all his articles about how Trump wouldn't win the nom, apparently forgetting that most wrote him off from the start as little more then a joke candidate.

when people mock silvers polling aggregate, they forget that his website had trump ahead in the polls during the republican primary. like you said, the only thing silver did wrong was editorializing that the polls would tighten as people dropped out and centered on a mainstream candidate, which many other people predicted as well.

but yeah now that trump is losing the polls are rigged.

[ringthree]

Nate himself definitely isn't a fan of Trump, but I would still trust his model for the most part. People dig up his all his articles about how Trump wouldn't win the nom, apparently forgetting that most wrote him off from the start as little more then a joke candidate.

Also his predictions and the polling are two different things. The polling actually showed that trump would win the nomination

[Fondue]

It's going to feel good man

[Zealot]

In all seriousness, there's only one path open to victory for Trump and it rests with voter turnout. Specifically, enough people would have to just remain home in North Carolina, Ohio, and Florida.

I say in all seriousness because I appreciate that you're just trying to jerk people around, but it should be stated that there is a legitimate avenue still completely viable for Trump.

[Day]

It's going to feel good man

Shitty obamacare bronze plan:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/its-offi...for-obamacare/

[Fondue]

Shitty obamacare bronze plan:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/its-offi...for-obamacare/

[Zealot]

Well, that's what happens when you let a for-profit industry handle its own pricing structures and then compel everyone to buy.

[Day]

compel is putting it pretty nicely lol

[Day]

Starting to think it was brilliant plan for single payer once all the companies drop out. The plans are shittttty and expensive already, ain't nobody got money for them to go up.