2016 USA Presidential election thread II: And. Here. We. Go!

[tyven]

To further on these protests and voter turnouts, i have a feeling a decent chunk (enough to sway the results) of non-voters were Clinton supporters who decided to not waste their time voting cause "theres no way people will vote for Trump".

accurate as fuck

[Krandor]

but for real i am actually super embarrassed for anyone that posts this meme

I mean, it's not necessarily wrong.

[kisada]

My brother is raging on Facebook about Trump's victory.

He voted for Stein. In Wisconsin. He thought it was safe even though I told him multiple times that it wasn't. I have less patience for his idiocy than for my sister who almost definitely voted Trump.

sorry you have to deal with that

[myreality]

I really wish to know what's happening at the DNC right now.

[Dantrag]

I really wish to know what's happening at the DNC right now.

*Zealot lamp*

[tyven]

I mean, it's not necessarily wrong.

you really think that millions of people would rather admit they cast their vote based on who called them names rather than the candidate they wanted? This meme was created by someone who has never won an argument and does not know how to properly display their mirth/schadenfreude.

[Krandor]

I really wish to know what's happening at the DNC right now.

If they're smart, there should honestly be a top to bottom culling of most of the people heavily associated with the Clinton camp. Anyone with even marginal ties is just setting themselves up for this kind of shit being brought up again in the next election, and it also likely goes a long way to appeasing the Bernie Bros who feel burned by the "establishment" of the party. This election was a 100% resounding defeat for the entire party, they need to heavily reevaluate where they go from here.

you really think that millions of people would rather admit they cast their vote based on who called them names rather than the candidate they wanted? This meme was created by someone who has never won an argument and does not know how to properly display their mirth.

Are you forgetting how stupid the average American is? Don't you have to deal with Redskins fans on a daily basis

[Day]

you really think that millions of people would rather admit they cast their vote based on who called them names rather than the candidate they wanted? This meme was created by someone who has never won an argument and does not know how to properly display their mirth/schadenfreude.

sometimes a man doesn't want to win an argument but rather start one

[tyven]

Are you forgetting how stupid the average American is? Don't you have to deal with Redskins fans on a daily basis

ACCURATE

[archibaldcrane]

The people who mock SJWs for their feefees complaining about their feefees getting hurt is a bit much, tbh

[Andalusian girls]

as a conservative who went to university in southern California i'm well aware of what happens interpersonally when you break with the left's orthodoxy, but this meme that the left's holier than thou name-calling inspired the common working American to rise up en masse against liberalism is ridiculous. firstly, most obviously, she won the popular vote. in any other first world democracy she'd be president. secondly, in 2012 Mitt Romney won 1.3 million more votes than Trump will. Donald wasn't swept to glory in a great white uprising, she simply couldn't get the rainbow coalition voters to turn out for her the way they turned out for Obama.

[D44kpunk]

as a conservative who went to university in southern California i'm well aware of what happens interpersonally when you break with the left's orthodoxy, but this meme that the left's holier than thou name-calling inspired the common working American to rise up en masse against liberalism is ridiculous. firstly, most obviously, she won the popular vote. in any other first world democracy she'd be president. secondly, in 2012 Mitt Romney won 1.3 million more votes than Trump will. Donald wasn't swept to glory in a great white uprising, she simply couldn't get the rainbow coalition voters to turn out for her the way they turned out for Obama.

either way you could say the holier than thou attitude effected the election, as a democrat i chose to just not vote

[archibaldcrane]

Yep. People keep trying to mythologize Trump voters, and there's no mystery to be solved. They're Republicans and Republican leaners. Same demographics and exact same turnout as in 2008 and 2012.

[Krandor]

I doubt there was that many people directly made to vote for Trump by the name calling or whatever, BUT it served to heavily galvanize the R base and lead us to HIGH ENERGY/dank memes/etc. And the overall energy level from his followers for sure had an effect compared to the general lack of enthusiasm for Hillary's campaign.

[Dantrag]

as a conservative who went to university in southern California i'm well aware of what happens interpersonally when you break with the left's orthodoxy, but this meme that the left's holier than thou name-calling inspired the common working American to rise up en masse against liberalism is ridiculous. firstly, most obviously, she won the popular vote. in any other first world democracy she'd be president. and in 2012 Mitt Romney won about a million more votes than Trump did. he wasn't swept to glory in a great white uprising, she simply couldn't get the rainbow coalition voters to turn out for her the way they turned out for Obama.

Obama is likeable and extremely charismatic. Hillary is one of the least likeable people in the united states. Of course she didn't fucking turn out the vote. I've said it 100 times and I'll keep saying in, DNC is 100% to blame. Some people will say "but mah emails didn't show anything". You really don't think there weren't phone calls tied to those emails that were of similar narrative? The fact that her personal email server was hacked(by who knows how many fucking people at this point) and she straight up lied about it. DNC and Hillary did it to themselves (and they even said they needed to get in front of it almost 2 years ago).

[tyven]

I doubt there was that many people directly made to vote for Trump by the name calling or whatever, BUT it served to heavily galvanize the R base and lead us to HIGH ENERGY/dank memes/etc. And the overall energy level from his followers for sure had an effect compared to the general lack of enthusiasm for Hillary's campaign.

Losing the war on memes hurts the most tbh

[Andalusian girls]

Yep. People keep trying to mythologize Trump voters, and there's no mystery to be solved. They're Republicans and Republican leaners. Same demographics and exact same turnout as in 2008 and 2012.

considerably less turnout even. Romney won 1.3 million more votes, McCain about 300,000 more. and their last successful bid saw Bush earn 2.4 million more.

the difference was Hillary was a much worse general election candidate than Barack Obama.

[Zealot]

Real talk, all seriousness. 4 years to get myself out there. Do it now? Or more traditional route as planned.

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[archibaldcrane]

People who need their presidential candidate to pass the "I want to get a beer with them" test to show up to the polls are worse than Stein voters.

[kisada]

Real talk, all seriousness. 4 years to get myself out there. Do it now? Or more traditional route as planned.

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dunno what you or your platform is about but building bridges right now while people are most vulnerable and most need it seems logical. not sure what the more traditional route would mean, though.