2016 USA Presidential election thread II: And. Here. We. Go!

[thetruepandagod]

I've lived in the US for 16 years now and I still find it interesting how people here find America to be so racist where in comparison it's probably most tolerant country overall

I still find it perplexing that the most blatant open racism I ever saw in my life was in Seattle of all places.

[Cichy]

I still find it perplexing that the most blatant open racism I ever saw in my life was in Seattle of all places.

Racism exists everywhere. I asked my friend who's a black girl from Africa what does she thinks about it in America and she said "You know what in America you can at least do something about it, if someone is racist to you you can tell someone and that person will face some sort of repercussions. I lived in places like including Europe where people can tell you fuck off because you're different race and you can't do anything about it"
But hey she's in med school, her husband just finished med school, her mother is a top nurse at the hospital, and her sister finished pharmacy school and on top of that they dislike this race bitching. So she maybe white with really really dark skin

[Aerin]

I've lived in the US for 16 years now and I still find it interesting how people here find America to be so racist where in comparison it's probably most tolerant country overall

Admittedly, a lot of Americans don't know much about outside of the U.S. But I think we can still agree that while we might be one of the better places, there's still a fair bit of room for improvement.

[Cichy]

Admittedly, a lot of Americans don't know much about outside of the U.S. But I think we can still agree that while we might be one of the better places, there's still a fair bit of room for improvement.

Oh there is I won't argue that but the improvements come from people and the culture we live in. Every minority that rose against diversity in this country did it through hard work and education. I mean look at jews, asians, polocks, irish, and anyone else. My grandfather died as a coal miner in Pennsylvania back in the days. Now my relatives have at least one doctor in the family. Kicking, screaming, and vandalizing things never solved anything. People will say they feel bad for you and do nothing for you. All you do is spend time you can use to improve your situation on bullshit. Only person that can change your own life is you. Americans trust too much in their government that is obviously at this point only interested in their own agenda. Government will never be able to step in and say "Hey quit being racist." People need to own up to their own shit and quit waiting for some invisible hand to save them.

[Andalusian girls]

it's almost like there are unique factors preventing the successful assimilation of people descended from African slaves vis-à-vis Polish, Irish, Jewish, and Asian immigrant groups

[Gredival]

Brief departure from my self-imposed depressive rage exile to respond to this.

Government will never be able to step in and say "Hey quit being racist."

The 19th Amendment.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964.
The Americans with Disabilities Act.

"I don’t believe you change hearts. I believe you change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate."

[thetruepandagod]

I told these fools u'd be back and or not dead.

[Minions]

I told these fools u'd be back and or not dead.

You fool.... this was obviously his deadmans switch going off.

[Aerin]

You have been missed sir.

[Kincard]

on scale of 1 to murder how mad are you at berniebros

[Gredival]

on scale of 1 to murder how mad are you at berniebros

I mean I said repeatedly that these fucks needed to learn to shut up and vote the party line, because as much as the unexpected angry white vote helped fuel Trump to victory he couldn't have made it without all those Republicans who held their nose and voted for him anyway just cause he had the (R) after his name.

[Tyrath]

I mean I said repeatedly that these fucks needed to learn to shut up and vote the party line, because as much as the unexpected angry white vote helped fuel Trump to victory he couldn't have made it without all those Republicans who held their nose and voted for him anyway just cause he had the (R) after his name.

Well, turns out this "like what you're given" strategy doesn't work on young and idealistic crowd. And if they're gonna be a big portion of the democratic turnout, they're gonna need to learn to cater better to them. Or continue to lose.

[myreality]

I mean I said repeatedly that these fucks needed to learn to shut up and vote the party line, because as much as the unexpected angry white vote helped fuel Trump to victory he couldn't have made it without all those Republicans who held their nose and voted for him anyway just cause he had the (R) after his name.

I think we had a discussion about this, about how this type of attitude is going to have the opposite affect......Guess that means you helped Trump get more votes,right?

[NynJa]

Well, turns out this "like what you're given" strategy doesn't work on young and idealistic crowd. And if they're gonna be a big portion of the democratic turnout, they're gonna need to learn to cater better to them. Or continue to lose.

The DNC should hire Tanaka, he built a career on "you're going to like what you're given"

[thetruepandagod]

The DNC should hire Tanaka, he built a career on "you're going to like what you're given"

2020 Working as Intended

[Talint]

I mean I said repeatedly that these fucks needed to learn to shut up and vote the party line, because as much as the unexpected angry white vote helped fuel Trump to victory he couldn't have made it without all those Republicans who held their nose and voted for him anyway just cause he had the (R) after his name.

Or you were wrong.

[Gredival]

Or you were wrong.

About what? That getting moderate voters is important? Pretty sure that's still true. If anything the problem is that the Democrats took a lot of moderate votes for granted -- unless you're about to tell me that whites in MI/WI/PA that went to Trump were progressives that would have gone for Bernie.

The DNC should hire Tanaka, he built a career on "you're going to like what you're given"

I guess my view on politics is an offshoot of my world view, cuz Tanaka was the fucking shit (not shit, THE shit)

[thetruepandagod]

I guess my view on politics is an offshoot of my world view, cuz Tanaka was the fucking shit (not shit, THE shit)

Claims to like fascist policies, doesn't back the candidate with fascist leanings. It's like you don't even want america to be elitist again.

[Talint]

About what? That getting moderate voters is important? Pretty sure that's still true. If anything the problem is that the Democrats took a lot of moderate votes for granted -- unless you're about to tell me that whites in MI/WI/PA that went to Trump were progressives that would have gone for Bernie.

I already took the "Bernie was right" victory lap, but I guess it bears reposting:



Labor left the democrats en masse. Trump's biggest attack was always the ability to hang NAFTA over Hilllary's head, which she wasn't even involved with. And yet, her campaign slogan was "America Is Already Great."

Guess we'll see if the democrats learn.

[Gredival]

I already took the "Bernie was right" victory lap, but I guess it bears reposting:



Labor left the democrats en masse. Trump's biggest attack was always the ability to hang NAFTA over Hilllary's head, which she wasn't even involved with. And yet, her campaign slogan was "America Is Already Great."

Guess we'll see if the democrats learn.

And? Bernie's advantage in the primary was educated whites. Not a terrible overlap with labor. I'm more pissed about this: