2016 USA Presidential election thread II: And. Here. We. Go!

[Tyrath]

See, shit like that is always going to be in her past and will always color my appreciation of her.

Careful, you'll trigger her.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Those camps were during WWII. Are we at war right now?

WTF

The Japanese/German/Italian camps were created with the blessing of an EO from Roosevelt to redefine the Espionage Act of 1917, with another EO creating the WRA headed by Eisenhower to lawfully displace people and reported straight to Roosevelt, a third EO allowing property and asset seizure, and a supreme court decision of the matter that purposefully did not address, define, or check the legality of those orders. While done under wartime effects and in response to Pearl Harbor there is no requirement for the US to be at war for these things to reoccur. And fuck we're already so balls deep on this "War on Terror" shit mess and fatigue that it wouldn't take much for Trump to do something very similar and be just kosher enough to slide.

And the Espionage Act of 1917, with moderate rewording, is still in existence today. It's also kinda the reason why Snowden isn't on US soil.

[Olo401]

Snowden's not on US soil because he ran away as if he were Sir Robin.

[Clash Perez]

Not surprising, since he knew he'd have long been in federal-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison by now.

[myreality]

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-c...on-december-19

Close to the 4.5 million goal. Sign it, even if you don't believe it will happen. It makes a statement regardless.

[Krandor]

She fucking lost, move on with your life.

[myreality]

She fucking lost, move on with your life.

Neva!

[Zealot]

She fucking lost, move on with your life.

Damn, how come no one said this to the Republicans in 2008? Surely this wisdom would have prevented 8 years of obstructionism.

[tyven]

She fucking lost, move on with your life.

LOL

[NynJa]

She fucking lost, move on with your life.

It'l be Nov 7 2020 and they'll still be protesting, #StillNotOurPresident

[BaneTheBrawler]

shut up Canada.

[Salodin]

The supreme court has been missing a seat for nearly a year and people are saying dems need to get over it lol.

[kuronosan]

HILLARY LOST, it's time to rally around Donald because that's what they did when Obama won.

[Krandor]

Or you know, Dems could actually worry about their own shit and/or start planning for the future instead of flailing around crying foul because they lost fair and square.

[Byrthnoth]

Isn't this flailing around and getting people pissed about Trump being elected part of planning for the future?

Democrats have a narrow path to remaining relevant:
1) Prevent the Republicans from gaining control of the remaining (7?) state legislatures they would need in order to have partisan constitutional amendment abilities.
2) Hold onto their 25 senate seats up for reelection in 2018 and perhaps pick up one more.
3) Hopefully push back the Republican ground game and regain control of some state legislatures in order to remove shitty voter suppression legislation and enact things like mail voting.
4) Incense their base so they actually help with any of #1-3

Step #4 is totally essential to accomplishing steps #1-3. If we sit back and just 'member the Bush administration where we failed to do this and it could have been worse (perhaps hereafter referred to as Trumpbad), then we won't accomplish steps 1-3.

[Quicklet]

Panic is the correct response right now -- a bunch of flat-out crazy and dangerous people are about to assume power and way too many people are like "hey let's give these guys a chance" as if there's any indication this won't be a complete disaster for the country.

[Fiye]

Right now DNC's making some moves that look good but ultimate don't do anything to treat the root cause of the issue. But at the same time its been hardly a week so these motions at least give me some comfort.

2018 looks bad but I think the DNC can pull it off if they don't repeat a 2014 'Fuck obama' approach.

[Byrthnoth]

They have no shot at taking the Senate or House in 2018. In 2018 they need to focus on state legislatures. Controlling state legislatures in 2018 would let them un-gerrymander areas in time for 2020, which is going to be important because the house of representatives will have its seats redistributed based on the 2020 census. That will likely give Republicans a net gain of 5 seats in the house (based on the 2014 census projections and assuming that red states stay red).


Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/hillaryclin...vey_measuring/
Did it and it works, but there is quite a long + silent delay.

[Krandor]

So apparently Kanye is a Trump supporter? How conflicted must tyven feel right now.

[tyven]

So apparently Kanye is a Trump supporter? How conflicted must tyven feel right now.

watch as he deftly steals Trump's base for 2020. Incredible. The man is a brilliant strategist.