2016 USA Presidential election thread II: And. Here. We. Go!

**Byrthnoth** · 2017-05-15 11:13

Originally Posted by 6souls

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/05...or-many-voters

Wisconsin voter ID law prevented 300k votes from being counted.

Edit: should note that Wisconsin was decided by 22k votes.

It's more accurate to say that Wisconsin voter ID laws disenfranchized an estimated 300k people who otherwise would have been legally qualified to vote. <14,000 voters (<0.5%) cast provisional ballots, which is what happens when you attempt to vote without a valid ID.

It's quite possible that voter ID laws tipped the balance here, but we're talking about 300k potential voters that are probably be less likely than average to vote even if they had ID. So that's maybe 100k votes cast, which would have to go better than 60:40 in favor of Hillary to have affected the state.

Voter ID laws are disgusting until we have a free, easy to obtain, national ID, but lets not get hyperbolic.

**archibaldcrane** · 2017-05-15 12:15

Wisconsin did have the largest drop in black turnout of any state, and blacks are significantly less likely to have a government issued ID, and overwhelmingly vote Democratic.

It's not a slam dunk, but given the margin it's possible that it was the difference.

**Talint** · 2017-05-15 13:55

Time flows like a river, and history repeats.

**Prim** · 2017-05-15 15:30

Originally Posted by Talint

Time flows like a river, and history repeats.

I was really hoping for another Chrono Trigger link/reference. Ah well.

**Mertron** · 2017-05-15 15:53

AND YET

THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE

**archibaldcrane** · 2017-05-24 15:43

Goddamn, there's something for everyone in this story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.04240ab309c9

A supposed Russian intelligence document obtained by the FBI in March of 2016 described communications between Wasserman-Schultz and someone from Loretta Lynch's AG office, suggesting that Lynch wouldn't dig too deeply into the email investigation. This document may have influenced Comey to push Lynch aside and do his public scolding of Hillary himself when he announced the investigation was concluded. There's even a Soros connection.

However, the document's veracity has long been in question, and it's likely either intentionally fake or just wrong.

**Ragnus** · 2017-05-26 13:52

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...ley/ar-BBByQHl

Clinton throwin' shade at Trump during a commencement speech at her alma mater, Wellesley College. Hits on some of the normal finding victories in defeat points. Our country is a complete clown show right now, but, hey, Clinton finally organized her closet while sipping wine.

**Fiye** · 2017-05-26 13:58

I'm glad it took her 6 months to muster the courage to shit on Trump publically.

**Quicklet** · 2017-05-26 14:05

I will laugh so hard if she baits him into rage tweeting about her again with this.

**tyven** · 2017-05-26 18:51

I will laugh so hard when she collapses mid commencement speech because the weather is balmy

**Deftscythe** · 2017-05-27 03:58

Originally Posted by Fiye

I'm glad it took her 6 months to muster the courage to shit on Trump publically.

Honestly, she could best serve democratic interests by going away. Clinton brand is toxic.

**TsingTao** · 2017-05-27 09:39

Agreed. Sorry it didn't work out but you can go away now.

**Guitarman** · 2017-05-27 11:43

Honestly I'd be pissed if I was a graduate there. It should've been about them, but she of course had to make it about her.

**Dantrag** · 2017-05-27 12:04

I can't say for sure, but the only politician I would want to speak at my graduation would be one of the Obamas. It feels like they'd actually make it about the kids, and not themselves. Could be wrong though...

**Mertron** · 2017-05-27 12:25

obama was the commencement speaker at rutgers 2 years ago

RUTGERS!

edit: o, it was last year. time flies etc

**6souls** · 2017-06-19 15:15

RNC marketing partner's weak web security leads to 200M US Citizen's Personal & Voting details leaked online
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40331215

**kisada** · 2017-06-19 16:13

oh nice

**6souls** · 2017-06-19 19:07

Exposed, I guess, would be a better a better term. The partner group added a password to the page June 1st.

Some of the other details the dump contained;

The unprotected data included information on voters' positions on issues from gun ownership to abortion as well as religious affiliation and ethnicity. It was amassed from public sources as well as less public ones, which Gizmodo reported ranged from "the banned subreddit r/fatpeoplehate to American Crossroads, the super PAC co-founded by former White House strategist Karl Rove."

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/19/533551...secured-online