2016 USA Presidential election thread II: And. Here. We. Go!

[myreality]

It lessens them you daft monkey.

Yes, lessons not stop completely you stubborn donkey.

Regardless of the cause, this may very well have grave implications for her campaign.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37332106

[Quicklet]

Problem is that Trump isn't a credible alternative for a signifcant portion of the country, and if it does look like he has a closer shot at this thing, he's probably going to get a lot more scrutiny than he's getting right now.

[Krandor]

More scrutiny? Unless some new Clinton "scandal" has made the airwaves news media these days is like 90% Trump

[myreality]

Serious question: what happens if a candidate becomes unable to continue a campaign right before the big election? Due to sudden illness or death. What's the next step?

[Fondue]

Probably shouldn't have nominated a walking corpse in that case because it's an autowin for the other side

[Quicklet]

Trump isn't really considered by many to be a "serious" contender though, so things that would be disqualifying to any other candidate from either party ("take the oil", stealing 9/11 money to enrich himself, bribing Florida AG) are reported on but never really in a context of "wow this is a serious scandal" by a majority of the major news outlets. Part of it is frankly (damaging) normalization because of the natural assumption/desire to make both choices seem possible, but I think if Trump does win part of the story is going to be the institutional failure of the media in covering the race, the same way they failed when reporting on the run-up to the Iraq War.

[Krandor]

The media already failed in large part solely for Trump winning the primary.

[Gryffes]

New angle, slightly blurrier but closer

[Quicklet]

That's true although I'd argue the GOP spent the last 6 years making it possible for him to come in and win the nomination.

[Tyche]

Yeah....this ain't gonna do shit to the polls.

Sucks though. id imagine it was probably a combo of heat, lack of proper rest on campaign trail, surrounded by a lot of people contributed. Honestly, Hillary can't cough on camera without media saying she's got stage IV cancer. I guess that's the way the media can try to close this horse race. Still, this isn't something that will significantly alter polls if historic trends mean anything.

[kisada]

yeah i don't think any reasonable people think she has some serious illnesses so i don't think today will change much. but it will cause the right to go into a state of shock over this shit. silver lining is maybe trump tries to politicize it on today, of all days

[Tyche]

Doesn't look like seizure lol. Syncopal episode. She's got a cardiac history.

[Ksandra]

I think this is going to damage her more than some think. I've mentioned this before that it doesn't matter what really is happening. What matters is what people think what happened.

[Fondue]

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1473616147547.webm
Neat

[Day]

I think this is going to damage her more than some think. I've mentioned this before that it doesn't matter what really is happening. What matters is what people think what happened.

Yeah not sure who you guys are kidding, who wants to see their potential commander in cheif fainting/convulsing in 80 degree weather. Its not even a matter of whats happenings vs what it looks like.. you can see her fainting with your own eyes, whatever the reason its a hella bad look.

[Gryffes]

Oh man.... the timing on this is pretty good.

[archibaldcrane]

Could be the first time in history that her being a woman is helpful - there's less of a hypermasculine "don't be a pussy!" tone to this.

[myreality]

Slow motion showing Hillary was literally dragged to the van.

https://vid.me/UjS5

[Sho]

Jesus, the stalker game.

[Tyche]

I think this is going to damage her more than some think. I've mentioned this before that it doesn't matter what really is happening. What matters is what people think what happened.

You think her supporters are going to jump ship because of this? No. Undecideds aren't going to commit predebate. This isn't going to do anything more than a point, two would be shocking. I can spout a list of huge campaign blunders that people thought would shake up polling, but they didn't.