Westworld - HBO - October 2, 2017 - AKA BOSSMODE COWBOY SCIFI SUPER DRAMA

[Stilzkin]

Holy shit at this episode. So the only dot I still can't fully connect is will being MIB, especiallly after the ending of this episode. So was Dolores's entire journey to the center of the maze told in flashbacks? That wouldn't match up with her in the William wardrobe at the end when MIB appears. That part I don't really get

She's been having flashbacks and retraced her journey with William. The wardrobe at the end wasn't cut like it it would have been 30 years ago.

[Damane]

Holy shit at this episode. So the only dot I still can't fully connect is will being MIB, especiallly after the ending of this episode. So was Dolores's entire journey to the center of the maze told in flashbacks? That wouldn't match up with her in the William wardrobe at the end when MIB appears. That part I don't really get

Dolores is actually remembering all the time. The scene with the destroyed church where she has no injurys is the present, the scene with young william are in the past, and the scenes with her and bernard are somewhere inbetween i believe? The incident where she killed arnold must have happened after/during young williams story, where she started to malfunction which resulted in her killing arnold.

Her memorys are all over the place, there are multiple memorys of her in the church with the blue dress on multiple timelines. One is before the incident where she sees young ford and one is after the incident where she meets bernard for the first time. I am fucking confused ._.

[Viq]

mother fuck, that episode. So, Maeve's shit has to be Ford's new narrative right? All the obvious problems (sup security cameras) have to be because Ford set that shit up. Her waking up in the operating table wasn't a malfunction, but Ford over-riding her behavior. All of Westworld is the maze, and it isn't for the visitors, but rather for the hosts to try and get out of.

[fliprock]

one of the techs did say someone had made changes a couple of episodes ago. it's hard to believe that would have been anyone else other than ford

[Azull]

I am not sure the maze is Fords narrative. I think his new narrative is more a red herring. The maze is something internal to the host either put in by Arnold or an accident of their programming discovered by him. 35 years ago Dolores made it to the end, went mad, and killed Arnold. She either repressed the trauma herself or was forcibly reset. Since they lost Arnold they didn't have the skill program new host with enough haste to replace her so she was reintroduced to the park. This may be why they don't completely dispose of the broken host but instead keep them in a warehouse.

Either way.. can it be Sunday now?

[Greedouw]

This show continuously kills it each and every week...

The music playing during Bernard's reveal made the scene so much more emotional, dear lord

[Mythe_Seraph]

I don't want this show to end

[grantlogan]

Jeffrey Wright for Best Actor Emmy.

[Zetanio]

Sir Anthony Hopkins for Best Actor Emmy.

FTFY

[Gokulo]

Dolores is actually remembering all the time. The scene with the destroyed church where she has no injurys is the present, the scene with young william are in the past, and the scenes with her and bernard are somewhere inbetween i believe? The incident where she killed arnold must have happened after/during young williams story, where she started to malfunction which resulted in her killing arnold.

Her memorys are all over the place, there are multiple memorys of her in the church with the blue dress on multiple timelines. One is before the incident where she sees young ford and one is after the incident where she meets bernard for the first time. I am fucking confused ._.

With all the jumping they're doing with her I'm somewhat expecting another, unexpected time jump reveal at one point, maybe further in the future or something.

Also, Dolores = Wyatt?

[Tyrath]

Marathoned this just in time to get to this ep.

Do they literally have no one around from back then who would've recognized that Bernard looks like a clone of Arnold?

[Zetanio]

Marathoned this just in time to get to this ep.

Do they literally have no one around from back then who would've recognized that Bernard looks like a clone of Arnold?

Nope.

[Zetanio]

Also keep in mind that much of the older staff would likely not be involved in the day-to-day anymore. Bernard is confined to the park.

[Rhyis.]

Dolores is actually remembering all the time. The scene with the destroyed church where she has no injurys is the present, the scene with young william are in the past, and the scenes with her and bernard are somewhere inbetween i believe? The incident where she killed arnold must have happened after/during young williams story, where she started to malfunction which resulted in her killing arnold.

Her memorys are all over the place, there are multiple memorys of her in the church with the blue dress on multiple timelines. One is before the incident where she sees young ford and one is after the incident where she meets bernard for the first time. I am fucking confused ._.

This is why I didn't want time mumbo jumbo. Shits convoluted.

Arnold reveal is exactly what I hoped and it was executed perfectly.

Also, Dolores = Wyatt?

I've been of the opinion that Maeve is Wyatt.

[Laugana]

I've been wondering if Teddy is Wyatt as he keeps having different flashbacks to the same period.

[Rhyis.]

Teddy looks to be the universal bitch. He said this episode that he couldn't control his own body when he thought he was with Wyatt (but it was him), it was like someone possessed him. Dude got hosted to murder a bunch of other hosts for whatever the fuck reason.

The only host we've seen that can control other hosts, so far, is Maeve.

[Azull]

I thought Cyclops kinda took his old memories of what he did and associated it with this new Wyatt narrative he was given.

[Krandor]

After this episode, I see Teddy = Wyatt. He just isn't woke enough to fully reach that level. Hence him needing to die again to attempt to reach the next level.

I was thinking for a bit that Angela was actually Wyatt, but now seeing that she's effectively fully aware of both her nature as a host and her ability to remember past narratives makes me think there's something else going on with her.

Reddit has a pretty good break down of how the show's timeline seems to play out. I've been iffy on some of the fan theories but after this episode I don't think any of the major ones can be disputed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/westworld/c...rlds_timeline/

[NotGreyheim]

Elsie is probably still ok, right guys? Right...?

[Rhyis.]

Elsie just likes to be choked. Into that kinky shit and Benard is all about that white woman ass.