President Donald J. Trump: Orange is the New Black, House Slytherin Rises Also Heil Trump!

[thetruepandagod]

edit: also, they seem to have forgotten the Obama protests back in the day with the Hitler signs et al, because when I bring that up they just tell me it happens every election.

Mmkay.

Bunch of lazy overweight white people with hitler obama pictures is the equivalent of millennials and liberals holding up pictures of Bush as hitler. Let me know when there is an equivalent to the leftist rioters protesting and destroying property in leftist metropolitan cities who voted majority left.

Basically let me know when Kansas sets itself on fire.

[Karbuncle]

This election is literally neither side being able to see why the other side voted for who they did. I'll be honest about it, I'll never see why anyone could support Hillary. I'm not proud of my only fall back choice, I hate it in fact, I think he needs to shut the hell up or at least get a filter installed in his brain... but I hate Hillary more. She stands for everything wrong with American Politcis, from the corruption to rigging her own Primary to filtering the news in her favor... pass. Neither candidate is an angel but fuck all if anyone could convince me she wouldn't be more dangerous than Trump in that position of power with as many influential and corporate backers pulling her strings.

I can just hope in 4 years we have better options. God save me i hope we do.

I'm sure there are plenty of Racists and Sexists who voted for Trump, but there are plenty of Racists and Sexists who voted for Hillary, except its okay for them cause hating White Men is okay.

[Greatguardian]

Id agree the stats there a while back showed that the republicans didnt get more votes but rather the democratic vote collapsed. Even tho Clinton got the nomination I wonder if making sanders VP might have changed the end result

It could have increased youth turnout and voter enthusiasm in general, but it would have deprived Clinton of a competent VP. One could argue that the VP's formal powers are so limited that having a cardboard box in the position would be fine if that cardboard box brought votes, but that's not Clinton's MO. Clinton's a smart person who likes to work with other smart people and treats the American people like they have more than two brain cells to rub together. For example, in Flint she tried to raise the level of discourse from "LOCK 'EM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY" to "Here are some budget measures we could introduce in congress within my first 100 days to have all these millions of miles of corroded pipes replaced in the next five years" and that shit just isn't exciting enough to keep the attention of people who get the entirety of their news from John Oliver and Trevor Noah.

[Day]

Honestly, we're heading down that path anyway regardless of outcome. The Republicans are the party of white supremacy now.

This is fucking retarded and you know it.

[Niiro]

The Republican party has been the party of white nationalism since the great shift that occurred in the 60s when Democrats became the party of civil rights and the south quickly shifted to staunch Republican in opposition.

That's not all it is but it is and has been a significant part of their voter base, to deny this is to deny history.

[kuronosan]

Bunch of lazy overweight white people with hitler obama pictures is the equivalent of millennials and liberals holding up pictures of Bush as hitler. Let me know when there is an equivalent to the leftist rioters protesting and destroying property in leftist metropolitan cities who voted majority left.

Basically let me know when Kansas sets itself on fire.

It's not that his argument wasn't valid. I watched all the elections since 2000, when I first voted.

To be fair, Kansas will likely set itself on fire, because there are only two liberal counties in the entire state and I don't live in them. The second anything even hints towards blue is the second Western KS goes to war.

[zoobernut]

This election is literally neither side being able to see why the other side voted for who they did. I'll be honest about it, I'll never see why anyone could support Hillary. I'm not proud of my only fall back choice, I hate it in fact, I think he needs to shut the hell up or at least get a filter installed in his brain... but I hate Hillary more. She stands for everything wrong with American Politcis, from the corruption to rigging her own Primary to filtering the news in her favor... pass. Neither candidate is an angel but fuck all if anyone could convince me she wouldn't be more dangerous than Trump in that position of power with as many influential and corporate backers pulling her strings.

I can just hope in 4 years we have better options. God save me i hope we do.

I'm sure there are plenty of Racists and Sexists who voted for Trump, but there are plenty of Racists and Sexists who voted for Hillary, except its okay for them cause hating White Men is okay.

The main problem with your whole rant here is that Hillary did not have any potential stances in her plans as president that would oppress or take rights away from people. Hillary would probably not (I know speculating here but it is supported by past behavior) have appointed people to her cabinet that had histories of actively trying to suppress portions of the population or take their rights away or discriminate against them.

I can see many reasons why people voted for Trump. I just disagree with them and believe that basic human rights are more important than the things that Trump is supposedly going to fix.

[Day]

The Republican party has been the party of white nationalism since the great shift that occurred in the 60s when Democrats became the party of civil rights and the south quickly shifted to staunch Republican in opposition.

That's not all it is but it is and has been a significant part of their voter base, to deny this is to deny history.

That doesn't make them the party of white supremacy. This nonsense is why the liberals lost this year.

[GoggleHead]

This is fucking retarded and you know it.

The problem is that he actually doesn't know that because he's kept himself sealed in an echo chamber long enough for it to become truth.

[Karbuncle]

I can see many reasons why people voted for Trump. I just disagree with them and believe that basic human rights are more important than the things that Trump is supposedly going to fix.

Don't get me wrong, the people Trump is appointing is making my head hurt, and I can only hope they do less damage than people predict. But if i had it to do over i'd still vote Trump, though I don't disagree with basic human rights being insanely important. I know I'm worried with Trump and the Gay rights advancements we've made, I can only hope he's not stupid enough to go down that route... hoping.

[thetruepandagod]

My biggest concern in regards to Trump is his environmental stance and people he's choosing to put in place in regards to it. And by biggest I mean only, all other damage he does will be drowned out in the march of time.

Just hope someone sits him down with Baron in the room and hammer home the point that there is a very real chance Baron and his grandchildren are going to be living in a pretty shitty world environmentally speaking.

[zoobernut]

Don't get me wrong, the people Trump is appointing is making my head hurt, and I can only hope they do less damage than people predict. But if i had it to do over i'd still vote Trump, though I don't disagree with basic human rights being insanely important. I know I'm worried with Trump and the Gay rights advancements we've made, I can only hope he's not stupid enough to go down that route... hoping.

If you want a window into how he will prioritize his presidency just look at the fact that one of the most staunchly anti trans anti gay politicians in this country is his vice president. If you want to know what he thinks of the environment look at the fact that his likely pick for his cabinet in that department is a climate change denying anti-science man who prioritizes business over the environment.

It doesn't really matter at this point if Trumps supporters are racist. If they are they were racist no matter what the outcome of the election. What matters is Trump and the people he surrounds himself with.

There are different ways to think about racism and the definition being used by people calling Trump supporters racist think that voting for a racist and supporting a racist government makes a person racist by extension even if they don't act racist in their every day lives on the other hand Trump supporters get offended and think that they are not racist because they might not be in their every day lives and in their mind you can only be racist if you actively participate in racist activities or say racist things not just if you support others who do.

[Fiye]

I don't think it'd be Trump pushing to go down that route though. I think it'd be Mike Pence and the Faith & Freedom Coalition. Granted most Republicans honestly don't give a flying fuck about trying to actively fight that stuff [Citation Needed].

But hey there's this wonderful thing called the RNC Platform aaaand.

Defending Marriage Against an Activist Judiciary
Traditional marriage and family, based on marriage between one man and one woman, is the foundation for a free society and has for millennia been entrusted with rearing children and instilling cultural values. We condemn the Supreme Court’s ruling in United States v. Windsor, which wrongly removed the ability of Congress to define marriage policy in federal law. We also condemn the Supreme Court’s lawless ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, which in the words of the late Justice Antonin Scalia, was a “judicial Putsch” — full of “silly extravagances” — that reduced “the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Storey to the mystical aphorisms of a fortune cookie.” In Obergefell, five unelected lawyers robbed 320 million Americans of their legitimate constitutional authority to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. The Court twisted the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment beyond recognition. To echo Scalia, we dissent. We, therefore, support the appointment of justices and judges who respect the constitutional limits on their power and respect the authority of the states to decide such fundamental social questions.

But I mean just go to page 11 and read on. At one point I tend on just printing out a few select pages of this document just so I can wipe my dirty ass with it.

[thetruepandagod]

You guys underestimate how many people flat out hate Hillary so much so that they will blind themselves to anything Trump says or does and may not even agree with a single thing he says. His greatest sell point was not being Hillary, literally every word/action/belief that has come out of him has detracted from that.

Every idiotic thing was just one more thing they had to regrettably swallow to vote against Hillary. But yes let's conflate his vocal KKK minority with the majority because that's what plays, and not how shitty a candidate Hillary was, how mired in controversy she was, yes Trump was as well but people had the better part of 30 years to form an opinion on Hillary and less than 6months-year to do so with Trump's various accusations and controversies. While you are at it go ahead and praise Hillary for not reaching out to and instead demonizing half of the country and expecting them to fall in line with such winsome tactics.

[zoobernut]

You guys underestimate how many people flat out hate Hillary so much so that they will blind themselves to anything Trump says or does and may not even agree with a single thing he says. His greatest sell point was not being Hillary, literally every word/action/belief that has come out of him has detracted from that.

I totally get that. I don't underestimate it. I just think those people are privileged not having to worry about their very lively hoods. Those people are coming from a place thinking only about themselves and care more about their ability to stick it to Hillary without thinking of how a Trump presidency *could* rip peoples lives apart if they push forward with some of their feelings regarding their lifestyle.

When I vote for president I vote based not only on how it will effect me but also how it will effect others.

[Fiye]

Except that Trump really didn't sell himself any better than the last two candidates.

Romney got 60.9m votes.
McCain got 59.9m votes
Trump has gotten 60.2m votes

Meanwhile over at the Democratic side.

Obama got 69.5m votes (2008)
Obama got 65.9m votes (2012)
Hillary has gotten 60.8m votes.

Trump didn't perform better. Hillary just performed worse.

[thetruepandagod]

I totally get that. I don't underestimate it. I just think those people are privileged not having to worry about their very lively hoods. Those people are coming from a place thinking only about themselves and care more about their ability to stick it to Hillary without thinking of how a Trump presidency *could* rip peoples lives apart if they push forward with some of their feelings regarding their lifestyle.

What makes you think they are not worrying about their livelihoods? One of the go to slander of the right is their sheer economic idiocy, perhaps they think they are voting for them, their family and their communities interests and see Trump as a boon in regards to all those things.

[kuronosan]

Like I said. Policy over people. Nothing wrong with that, because that flips based on your perspective.

[Infini]

The other problem is he's come out as the kind of person that will not only divide and alienate the US domestic population but could screw up foreign relations as well. The environment might have been one time a tree hunger hippy thing but when you see the poles melting to unseen levels in recorded history and seeing significant physical proof of increasing temperatures and violent weather extremes only for them to move to put a guy in charge of the EPA who's completely dense to the physical evidence in front of him and denying everything what does that tell you?

This image sums up the republicans nicely on many of their issues lol


Also Trump has brought out unprecedented demonstrations against him on a level not seen in modern times. 2016 has been one of the weirdest table flip events and celebrity hit list events in a long time and I really wouldn't count out the Electorial College voting Hillary over Trump NOT because of her just winning the popular vote but because of the damage this kind of person could cause. He's also gone and burned alot of people in the republicans too if I'm not mistaken and is vindictive and broken every kind of presidential tradition there is running this campaign and if he causes the damage people fear at the moment there's nothing to say this could come back and bite them the other way in a few years come reelection time.

[thetruepandagod]

Also Trump has brought out unprecedented demonstrations against him on a level not seen in modern times.

This would have meant something to me before 2015-2016 where people started rioting in streets over shootings be they justified or not. I just can't get over people in California blocking the 101, really this state was a bastion of Hillary support. These people are just bored and want to be a part of something, if you want to protest go do it in a red state ya fucks. But then again I love people in seattle setting their own shit on fire because why not.