EVO 2017 - Where everyone is not playing SFV

[Weltall]

For the last 4-5 weeks I've been hailing this weekend as the return of Game of Thrones. It didn't even hit me until this past Sunday that this was EVO week lmfao. I'm actually going to a Game of Thrones party to watch the last 2 episodes of Season 6 > Season 7 opener instead of watching EVO.

During SF4, I would have skipped Game of Thrones for god damned NLBC Sanford vs. Smug goodness. The state of FGC streams now is pathetic.

[Spider-Dan]

lol, are you surprised like at all?

Am I surprised that SF did well enough last year for ESPN to agree to bring it back? Yes, yes I am.

esports are a thing now and companies are trying to captalize off of it. Whether or not people like us enjoy the game is literally irrelevant to all of that.

There are many, many other fighting games (i.e. all of them) that are not being broadcast live on ESPN during Sunday night prime time. So I don't think you can just handwave that away as "e-sports are big now."

I guess it's easier for me to separate "I don't like this game" from "this game is bad" or "this game is unpopular" because I'm used to it, but it's still amusing for me to listen to SF4 fans who are convinced that they are the first group of players to dislike the new SF sequel and prefer the previous one they were good at. I've said many times that I don't personally like SF5, but I also don't like SF4 or SF3. That doesn't make them all bad games; they just aren't intended for me.

[Lokus]

All these other games that are hailed as being better than SFV yet they can't carry the hype and make people be excited for Evo. I find it hella amusing to be honest. I'm watching most (all except Smash and NRS) of the finals and skipping pool play as usual.

[Spider-Dan]

TBH I'm really just hoping SF5 does well enough on ESPN this year that (along with the implicit Disney conspiracy) ESPN decides to expand its Evo coverage to two games next year. Then Marvel's innate superiority to all other forms of video games can be witnessed by a national audience, Marvel will assume its rightful place at the peak of competitive gaming, and my life's work will be complete.

The key is to keep aspirations small.

[Nitsuki]

Anything to keep capcom alive at this point so they can keep giving us shit quality games (not RE7 tho). -_-

[Deejay]

There are many, many other fighting games (i.e. all of them) that are not being broadcast live on ESPN during Sunday night prime time. So I don't think you can just handwave that away as "e-sports are big now."

Wasn't Mortal Kombat on CW and other outlets? The game was well received and had 100k prize pots 6 months ago. Do you think any of that mattered to the scene? Probably not because it's not even a main game at Evo.

No other fighting game is receiving the same amount of monetary support as SFV is currently. Hundreds of thousands of dollars is being poured into the game every year by Sony and the like. It has nothing to do with the game being good/bad and everything to do with esports being popular now and companies wanting to test the waters.

[Spider-Dan]

Wasn't Mortal Kombat on CW and other outlets? The game was well received and had 100k prize pots 6 months ago. Do you think any of that mattered to the scene? Probably not because it's not even a main game at Evo.

CW ran an hour-long TV special that was a condensed version of a web series; the special they ran was about the third season of the series, which was focused on MKX. That is not anywhere in the same league as a live, network-produced broadcast of a major tournament final.

No other fighting game is receiving the same amount of monetary support as SFV is currently. Hundreds of thousands of dollars is being poured into the game every year by Sony and the like.

And why is "Sony" continuing to pour money into an 18-month-old PS4 game when they could be pouring money into, say, shiny new TK7?
There are reasons why these decisions are made.

You want to say SF5 is coasting off the name? Fine, but it's not like SF4 wasn't doing that too. Every sequel to a big-name franchise coasts off the name, and the bigger the name, the bigger the inertia.

[fantasticdan]

And why is "Sony" continuing to pour money into an 18-month-old PS4 game when they could be pouring money into, say, shiny new TK7?

Gee, it's almost like Sony has a vested interest in a game they bankrolled.

[Elcura]

Anything to keep capcom alive at this point so they can keep giving us shit quality games (not RE7 tho). -_-

I would include RE7 in this category too. The only hope I have for Capcom is that the new MH game isn't a piece of shit.

But given their track record lately I don't have high hopes.

[Spider-Dan]

Gee, it's almost like Sony has a vested interest in a game they bankrolled.

Sony bankrolled the game in 2015. That money is already gone, and as is frequently pointed out in this thread, everyone who wants SF5 already has it (i.e. it's not moving PS4s off the shelves). So how does dumping more money on SF5 in 2017 help "Sony" more than dumping that money on promoting a new game? That doesn't make sense, unless Sony is promoting SF5 for the same reason Razer and Red Bull do: because they think it's a better return on investment than promoting other, newer games.

I'm also curious as to where people are getting this info about SF5's overwhelming funding advantage. Sponsorship money that goes to Evo helps all the games, not just SF5, and the other games are frankly lucky to be riding coattails; the chances of BB or TK being at Mandalay Bay without SF5 are approximately 0%. And you definitely can't be talking about the ESPN deal... no one is silly enough to say that SF5 is only on ESPN because of the unearned money advantage from ESPN. So where is "SF5" receiving all this supposed subsidization that's artificially keeping it alive?

[Weltall]

Fucking lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

https://clips.twitch.tv/ReliableObliqueFlyBleedPurple

Mike Ross: "SF4 on mobile is better than SFV"

[Krandor]

Evo schedule



SFV finals starting at the same time as Game of Thrones, RIP ratings/views

[Xno Kappa]

Nah. Smash will make sure to delay it by 2~3 hours.

[Krandor]

Not if they're going to be airing on ESPN 2. Smash has 4 hours and likely won't use that much, they did the same thing last year.

[Xno Kappa]

Nah I know. Was just being facetious.

[Spider-Dan]

SFV finals starting at the same time as Game of Thrones, RIP ratings/views

I don't know how much crossover there is between "people who watch video game tournaments" and "people who watch non-live television programming as it is broadcast in their own time zone."
Maybe that's just the West Coaster in me talking.

[GoggleHead]

I've more or less ignored the FGC since last Evo. Where's the hype going to be this year? What should I be on the lookout for?

[Krandor]

Hatred of SFV aside, it'll probably be the big attraction again. Otherwise I'd look to anime and Tekken 7 to bring the hype. Injustice 2 finals might be enjoyable as well, especially since there's a good chunk of money on the line.

In terms of pure skill and high level play, Tekken 7 is likely gonna be the top choice.

[Ragnus]

So, what's "The Jump Off"?

[Cjskater]

I've more or less ignored the FGC since last Evo. Where's the hype going to be this year? What should I be on the lookout for?

SFV
Tekken maybe but only if an American makes it to top 8 and doesn't get immediately washed (for me anyway, I'm not big into 3D)
GG for sure
BB as well
UMvC3 obviously, plus apparently no KBR this year, positive for some negative for others. I find his team boring as fuck.

I'm personally not expecting anything out of Injustice, I'm not really into that game. I'll watch it, I watch every game's top 8 at least, I don't know about pools/semis though.

So, what's "The Jump Off"?

• Evo5 is dedicated to The Jump Off, a FGC talk-show that hopes to “jump” between all the streams at Evo. It will feature match breakdowns, chats with players and commentators, special guests and a whole lot more. If you’re looking to learn more about a particular fighting game that’s taken your interest during Evo, The Jump Off will be your one-stop shop.

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