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    My house eats LED bulbs like you wouldn't believe. They flicker and go out all over the place and I have to pop different or older bulbs in the same circuits and fixtures to draw some of the power from them. Some buzz and hum, even when rated not to or labeled for dimming.

    Really I'm unhappy with all light bulbs and whatever the fuck wiring was done in my house, but the swirly CFL bulbs or w/e they are called definitely lasted longer.

    My parents use all daylight bulbs in their house, my son looks Asian at my home and white as a ghost there who knows what nationality he really is.

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    The new bulbs are just so much better for an extra quarter. I feel like the markets got this one lol.

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    Wait, which are an extra quarter?

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    The bulbs that give off the same color of light as those old time ones. Not comparable to say, halogen bulbs, but they are definitely warmer than the typical cfl or led bulb.

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    Oh, the newer fluorescent?

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    Idk what's considered "newer" anymore. My "new" bulbs are like 5 years old and I have one set on the desk with blue "outdoor" light, but all the fans in the bedrooms have that yellow "warm" light of the old school bulbs. I recall these being the Walmart brand of whatever energy saving bulb they sold. They cost cents per year to run.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47724267

    Lab-grown meat expected to hit the market in 2020 with burgers costing as much as $50/ea.

    The firm Beyond Meat was also in Vancouver to give delegates a taste of its plant-based meat substitute.

    Beyond Meat, along with Silicon Valley firm Impossible Foods, are already offering plant-based meat alternatives but there are dozens of firms experimenting with developing meat products which takes the cells of living animals and 'grows' meat from them.

    Mr Friedrich thinks the general public will get their first taste of cell-based meat in 2020 but, initially at least, will have to pay a premium of around $50 (£38).

    Cultured meat, or clean meat as it is sometimes called because of its low environmental impact, has the ability to transform farming, Mr Friedrich told the BBC.

    "We grow a massive amount of crops just to feed farm animals. For every nine calories we put into a chicken we get one calorie out. It is a fantastically inefficient way to create food," he said.

    "And it is estimated that we need to provide between 70% and 100% more meat by 2050."

    A clean meat "farm" will look very different - more like a brewery than a farm - and would not require any animals, said Mr Friedrich.

    "The cells of the animals would be immortalised in cell banks," he explained.
    The Vegan Society has already denounced it.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47945397

    There is a climate change protest currently taking place in London called the Extinction Rebellion. It's scale is similar to Occupy Wall Street and hundreds have been arrested so far.

    Since its launch last year, members have shut bridges, poured buckets of fake blood outside Downing Street, blockaded the BBC and stripped semi-naked in Parliament.

    It has three core demands: for the government to "tell the truth about climate change", reduce carbon emissions to zero by 2025, and create a citizens' assembly to oversee progress.

    Controversially, the group is trying to get as many people arrested as possible.

    One of the group's founders, Roger Hallam, believes that mass participation and civil disobedience maximise the chances of social change.

    Oxford Circus is usually one of the busiest crossroads in London, but only scores of protesters and bemused onlookers can be found in the middle of the road today.

    Food stalls offering free porridge, and clothing lines for dirty laundry have been erected.

    Children as young as six are making use of the freshly-drawn hopscotch, running around the tents and flying colourful banners.

    One campaigner, who attended the protest with her two children, says she was protesting for the people who are "the most vulnerable, and least responsible for climate change".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47724267

    Lab-grown meat expected to hit the market in 2020 with burgers costing as much as $50/ea.



    The Vegan Society has already denounced it.
    That seems like the sort of thing a vegan society should be on board with, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athas View Post
    That seems like the sort of thing a vegan society should be on board with, no?
    "We sympathise with the development of clean meat as it has the potential to eliminate animal suffering and reduce the environmental impacts associated with animal agriculture.

    "We welcome any reduction in animal suffering but we can't support clean meat as animals are still used in its production - whilst these products include starter cells derived from animals, they aren't vegan."

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    Veganism is a religion

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    Vegans can't even give this one a pass because of the technicality.

    Can't wait for the break between vegan denominations.

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    Vegans don't allow honey in their diets, the process of obtaining such these days is beneficial for bee colonies whereas substitutes such as agave can actually be ecologically harmful, so they've already got the part of religion where there are irreconcilable contradictions that they just ignore down.

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    Maybe Attenborough should make a special about lab grown meat and put it on Netflix

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    I have eatten Vegan food/meat a couple times. Some of the most awful stuff I have ever tasted. >_<

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    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/0...or-41-days-now
    https://www.weather.gov/lix/ms_flood_history

    The Mississippi river has been at a major flood stage for over 40 days. The longest and most damaging streak since 1927. The longest streak was for over 100 days in 1908.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...986_story.html

    The Trump administration sought to remove references to climate change from an international statement on Arctic policy that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is expected to endorse next week, leading to sometimes testy negotiations over how much to emphasize an issue considered a crisis for the region.
    
The Arctic Council declaration is an affirmation of goals and principles among the eight Arctic nations, which meet every two years. The Trump administration’s position, at least initially, threatened a standoff in which the United States would not sign onto a statement that included climate discussion and other members would not agree to a version that left it out, according to senior diplomats and others familiar with the discussions.

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    All of the recent Green New Deal-inspired specific policy proposals have put a lot of ideas out there, but (like in the healthcare space) I worry that politicians are focusing on what is easy rather than what is necessary.

    https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sou...-gas-emissions

    If we switch our entire grid to low greenhouse gas power and all our cars to EVs, we basically cut carbon emissions by 50%. That is not enough, but it is a start.

    Any individual's contribution to our global carbon debt is insignificant and humanity has never been good at dealing with the tragedy of the commons problem. It is not realistic to expect that consumers are going to restrict their consumption and have an impact on global warming. The changes are going to have to be top-down and require innovation before they will be politically possible.

    Renewable energy, even scaled up unreasonably, basically has no chance of powering the world. In 2015, it provided about 5,000 TWh of energy globally. We consumed 158,000 TWh and our consumption is growing by ~3,000/yr. If we added 60% of the current amount of total rewnewable energy, which we have spent more than a decade seriously developing, to the grid every year, we would only become stationary. We should do this aggressively, as Germany did and as the recent legislative proposals outline, but we should recognize that getting 30% of our electricity from renewables (like Germany) isn't enough.


    We need to invest heavily in fusion and carbon capture research while we do stopgap stuff like windmills and solar. If we don't divert a few hundred billion dollars into solving this problem now it is going to be a lot worse for us down the road. This has been obvious since Al Gore campaigned on it about 20 years ago. I feel the most grim about humanity's prospects when I look at the politics around the clear and present danger of climate change.

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    I think a radical start is a forced migration out of desert and humid climates that require homes and offices to run energy hogging air conditioning 24/7 during all days of the year. A very significant percentage of our energy use is attributed to building's conditioning use.

    But lol @ forcing people out of their homes, especially in real estate rich Phoenix and Florida. LA is too far established (and if you've read my earlier rants you know where I stand on this issue).

    All this talk about energy innovation is just hoping for some miracle building enclosure breakthrough and HVAC efficiencies. Why wait when we can do things now. A Federal program to allow small-town to big city master planning to be easily adopted for smart growth and community building. These policies have been used successfully in the past on a case by case basis, so there is precedent that we can create good, sustainable communities.

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