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    Or, we shoot giant lightning bolts into the sky.

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    Alternatively, every state gets a gigafactory to store energy during off hours

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    Yeah, no thanks on extra charging people for existing during peak when it's unlikely they can schedule their work/family life to non-peak. Not saying what to do with wasted/excess power isn't a problem, but it's not one to pass on to the consumer.

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    It's very much a building science issue, too. Glassy office buildings and high energy consumption for cooling. Homes with shit insulation or regions not sustainable for living in the current trend of climate control (looking at you, vast swaths of the south and southwest). Just gotta wait for those sweet, sweet battery factories to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Yeah, no thanks on extra charging people for existing during peak when it's unlikely they can schedule their work/family life to non-peak. Not saying what to do with wasted/excess power isn't a problem, but it's not one to pass on to the consumer.
    That would also mean your home is using less during that time, so appliances and such wouldn't be as big a drain when everyone is out of the house for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Yeah, no thanks on extra charging people for existing during peak when it's unlikely they can schedule their work/family life to non-peak. Not saying what to do with wasted/excess power isn't a problem, but it's not one to pass on to the consumer.
    Some demand is easy to shift, all electric cars have charge timers to set so they charge like midnight to 5am or whatever if you want. Some is harder. However, if electricity costs the power company more at certain times (and much less/free at others) it makes sense to pass that along to change behaviors.

    Unless we want to just build 100+ more nuclear reactors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Some demand is easy to shift, all electric cars have charge timers to set so they charge like midnight to 5am or whatever if you want. Some is harder. However, if electricity costs the power company more at certain times (and much less/free at others) it makes sense to pass that along to change behaviors.

    Unless we want to just build 100+ more nuclear reactors.
    I sure do.

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    I'm concerned that if we saturate the grid with shit loads of power, people wont feel the need to conserve energy, increasing further demand, and stressing the grid further.

    It's ok honey, run that AC to 65 degrees while we are out of the house, it's basically free!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    I'm concerned that if we saturate the grid with shit loads of power, people wont feel the need to conserve energy, increasing further demand, and stressing the grid further.

    It's ok honey, run that AC to 65 degrees while we are out of the house, it's basically free!!!
    But that wouldn't happen cause if everyone did, then prices at that time wouldn't be cheap. There is no way to systemically take advantage of that system without causing said system to shift and say "oh look at all that demand, time to turn these turbines on and raise prices"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    But that wouldn't happen cause if everyone did, then prices at that time wouldn't be cheap. There is no way to systemically take advantage of that system without causing said system to shift and say "oh look at all that demand, time to turn these turbines on and raise prices"

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    I see your point, thanks.

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    Hottest Arctic temperature record probably set with 100-degree reading in Siberia



    A northeastern Siberian town is likely to have set a record for the highest temperature documented in the Arctic Circle, with a reading of 100.4 degrees (38 Celsius) recorded Saturday in Verkhoyansk, north of the Arctic Circle and about 3,000 miles east of Moscow. Records at that location have been kept since 1885.

    If verified, this would be the northernmost 100-degree reading ever observed, and the highest temperature on record in the Arctic, a region that is warming at more than twice the rate of the rest of the globe.

    On Sunday, the same location recorded a high temperature of 95.3 degrees (35.2 Celsius), showing the Saturday reading was not an anomaly. The average June high temperature in Verkhoyansk is just 68 degrees (20 Celsius).
    Update: The World Meteorological Organization (WMO), which certifies temp records, has accepted the 100.4 deg F Arctic temperature record set Saturday in Siberia.

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    It's fine, in six month, it will start snowing in the Northern hemisphere, thus once again proving conclusively that all this global warming stuff is a bunch of nonsense.

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    What was the previous record?

    Edit: The article doesn't clearly state but it gives enough information to gather it was probably about 76 for that specific day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    What was the previous record?

    Edit: The article doesn't clearly state but it gives enough information to gather it was probably about 76 for that specific day?
    99.1 on July 25, 1988

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    99.1 on July 25, 1988
    I see now what i was reading in the Article. An unrelated town, Khatanga, Siberia.

    a 1.3 degree new high recorded 32 years later, Okay, I appreciate the context.

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    If anyone wants to read a book, my friend Michael Shellenberger's newest book "Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All" is up to #6 on the Amazon bestseller list.

    It's out of stock on Amazon but I think Barnes and Noble still has some in stock, they'll have a new printing out in a couple weeks.

    https://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/apoca...ger/1134858807



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    hell yeah we need more climate merch

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    Judge rejects Dakota Access request for emergency order

    A federal judge on Tuesday rejected a request for an emergency order to delay the process of shutting down the Dakota Access pipeline while attorneys appeal a ruling to shutter the pipeline during the course of an environmental review.

    Pipeline attorneys filed the motion — along with a notice of appeal — late Monday after U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled to stop the flow of oil by Aug. 5. In denying the request for an expedited ruling, Boasberg said he will scheduled a status hearing to discuss scheduling when he receives the Dakota Access motion to keep the pipeline running.

    Boasberg ordered the pipeline shuttered while the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers fulfills his demand to conduct a more extensive environmental review than the one that allowed the pipeline to start moving oil on the Standing Rock Indian Reservation three years ago. Boasberg cited the “potential harm” that the pipeline could cause before the Corps finishes its survey

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    Death Valley sets record for planet's hottest temperature in years — and the heat wave is forecast to spread
    This is just one small part of a brutal heat wave baking the deep Southwest and lower Plains states right now before expanding eastward and northward later this week. Dozens of records were set over the weekend and dozens more are on the way this week.

    Excessive Heat Warnings and Heat Advisories cover 50 million Americans in an area stretching 1,700 miles from the deserts of Southern California to the beaches of Panama City, Florida. Temperatures today may top out over 120 in the deserts of California and Arizona, and near 110 in west Texas. Heat index numbers, which factor in humidity, will reach an oppressive 115 near Dallas and east to coastal Louisiana.
    In New Orleans, the heat index in the middle of the night on Sunday was a sweltering 107 degrees.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-v...ord-heat-wave/

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    Death Valley hit 128F.

    Could cook a nice steak at that temp.

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