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    I'm sure China and India and all the rest will get right on it about reducing their emissions

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    I'd sit here and say that I wish climate change consequences only happened specifically in areas that affect the most guilty, but honestly the U.S. would be fucked as well. The industrial revolution says hello, and while China and India are awful, we've been doing it the longest and continue to do it because of tribalism and politics.

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    Well the US has been essentially exporting it's emissions for a while now as well. If it wasn't for US businesses sending a lot of their manufacturing overseas, a good chunk of that pollution would be here instead.

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    I just hope the obvious climate change from this year is enough for countries to actually deal with it this time around unless we want to see even more of our planet getting fucked up for the growing generation. We knew this was coming for decades and tried to manage it pre-emptively (Kyoto Protocol anyone?), but most countries flaked off from that (thx Canada) or didn't participate, and I doubt the largest contributors are not going to be held accountable as per usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    I just hope the obvious climate change from this year is enough for countries to actually deal with it this time around
    Narrator: It wasn't

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    Well, hopefully the Clean Energy Standard and Clean Energy tax credits in the proposed reconciliation bill are left mostly intact, because cleaning up the power grid is A1 on the list of things to do for America.

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    Ever see Blade Runner: 2049? I really believe that is what the world is going to look like in five hundred years.

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    If things get too hot someone will release the sulfur drones and cool it back down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    I just hope the obvious climate change from this year is enough for countries to actually deal with it this time around
    they're beginning to deal with it as the pace of going green is accelerating, but it is too little, and far too late. we are struggling, with moderate success, merely to reduce the increase of greenhouse gas emissions, nonetheless affect the dramatic decline necessary to forestall additional significant damage to the biosphere. global decarbonization efforts will likely continue to pick up steam but ultimately this will prove a textbook example of the political world's failure to act upon the scientific world's advice until they are compelled to do so by readily apparent political pressure. the world needed the climate change policies of the coming decade two decades ago.

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    I think ultimately we're just gonna have to make peace with the fact there is no going back and companies will just create new products/services to make living in a hotter and more unpredictable world more comfortable.

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    Idk what temp we expect to cap out at.

    There seems to be a general assumption that it will be survivable, but I guess we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Idk what temp we expect to cap out at.

    There seems to be a general assumption that it will be survivable, but I guess we'll see.
    I think the latest expectation is 67 million excess deaths from climate between now and 2100 - so that's less than 1% of the population, definitely survivable.

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    But yeah, we (globally) need to reduce new emissions as much as possible as quickly as possible, figure out how to remove C02 from the air at scale, look seriously at reducing the sunlight a little with geoengineering, and develop resiliency towards drought, floods, and wildfires - flood control systems especially in poor countries, water conservation (especially in farming)/desalination, and best practices of forest management to reduce wildfire frequency and intensity - because we've already warmed some and are going to warm more - just taking emissions to zero doesn't stop the new climate.

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    I'd love to start banning suburban sprawl and living in climates that aren't conducive to passive heating/cooling or importing fresh water. Looking at you Las Vegas and all of Arizona.

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    I want to know scientifically, where the best place to live is to prepare for the inevitable mass migrations and impending increase in storm severity.

    At first I thought somewhere rural in the middle of a country with a lake especially high altitude, but it's probably New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    I want to know scientifically, where the best place to live is to prepare for the inevitable mass migrations and impending increase in storm severity.

    At first I thought somewhere rural in the middle of a country with a lake especially high altitude, but it's probably New Zealand.
    With Australia constantly burning, NZ won't be that rosy with the constant smoke plumes floating into the area December - March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    But yeah, we (globally) need to reduce new emissions as much as possible as quickly as possible, figure out how to remove C02 from the air at scale, look seriously at reducing the sunlight a little with geoengineering, and develop resiliency towards drought, floods, and wildfires - flood control systems especially in poor countries, water conservation (especially in farming)/desalination, and best practices of forest management to reduce wildfire frequency and intensity - because we've already warmed some and are going to warm more - just taking emissions to zero doesn't stop the new climate.
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    For my money, I think Northern Appalachia. No water shortage problems in either direction and the temp is on the cool side now but not too much. If I was going to plunk a house down somewhere and live there the rest of my life, probably southern NY in the hills they call mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    I want to know scientifically, where the best place to live is to prepare for the inevitable mass migrations and impending increase in storm severity.

    At first I thought somewhere rural in the middle of a country with a lake especially high altitude, but it's probably New Zealand.
    In the U.S, the northeast/parts of Canada (although that doesn't account for the potential strength of future hurricanes). Absolute best way to find out is to pay attention to where the rich people move and live (not where they just buy houses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    For my money, I think Northern Appalachia. No water shortage problems in either direction and the temp is on the cool side now but not too much. If I was going to plunk a house down somewhere and live there the rest of my life, probably southern NY in the hills they call mountains.
    I mean NY has but the the Appalachian and Adirondack ranges. Not like we (NY) named them that.

    Could definitely settle down on a fresh lake in the Adirondacks somewhere.

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