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    You think being more energy efficient would make them have less energy available in the state? Idgi

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    Climate control is an energy hog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    This is the same State that's trying to ban everything fuel-based in an effort to push towards electrical alternatives?
    I mean, eventually that's what has to happen so if they don't push it won't, in any reasonable timeframe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    Climate control is an energy hog.
    We should run our air conditioners on natural gas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    Industrial Climate control is an energy hog.
    ftfy.

    Cold storage energy costs at work is at least $200k/month. Course we're talking a warehouse with -80°C & -20°C freezers filled with raw material and finished goods, a 2600 sq ft 4°C walk-in refrigeration unit, and another 1200 sq ft -20°C walk in-freezer.

    Now I'm imagining Amgen's facility costs way more than our facility's small footprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synistar View Post
    ftfy.

    Cold storage energy costs at work is at least $200k/month. Course we're talking a warehouse with -80°C & -20°C freezers filled with raw material and finished goods, a 2600 sq ft 4°C walk-in refrigeration unit, and another 1200 sq ft -20°C walk in-freezer.

    Now I'm imagining Amgen's facility costs way more than our facility's small footprint.
    How is so much energy being wasted keeping things cold at -80. Do you not insulate your freezers? Keep the doors open all afternoon to move materials?

    Have you thought about just moving the warehouses to space.

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    If anyone wants to see something neat about the power draw during the California heat wave.

    http://www.caiso.com/todaysoutlook/pages/supply.html

    Scroll down to the supply trend and set it to Sept 6th (the day of the stage 3 energy alert). Battery storage provided more power than the Diablo Canyon nuclear plant for 3 hours. In 2020, the battery capacity was a fraction of what it is today (50MW in 2020 vs up to 3,000MW today) and resulted in rolling brownouts during the 2020 heat wave.

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    Yeah watching batteries perform as they did last week, and seeing how much more capacity they've installed just in the past year, makes me hopeful that renewables will have a chance at being a larger part of the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Yeah watching batteries perform as they did last week, and seeing how much more capacity they've installed just in the past year, makes me hopeful that renewables will have a chance at being a larger part of the solution.
    They aren't part of the solution, but the solution. Unfortunately, the market will move far too slow to matter if left to its own devices.

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    The state line is is where some of the highest mountains are around here so I'm not really surprised. Still it has been unseasonably cooler here as it normally does not start getting cold until late October.

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    Crab season canceled in Alaska after a 90% population drop over the last 2 years. They're not for sure what went wrong and arent ruling out crab AIDS or whatever, but it looks like the water's just too warm for them.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fishing...limate-change/

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    we still woulda had them crabs in Al Gore's America

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