Final Fantasy Record Keeper 2017: Eiko's Record Sphere is a Dead Meme

[Alkar]

But if all 3 levels of a daily only count as one dungeon, we'll have to take time away from the 120 stamina dungeons in order to get 3 dungeons done per day.

Huh? It will count as three dungeons because you clear it three times. It doesn't say anywhere that you have to clear three different dungeons. This is exactly how dailies work in FFBE.

[Ratatapa]

Huh? It will count as three dungeons because you clear it three times. It doesn't say anywhere that you have to clear three different dungeons. This is exactly how dailies work in FFBE.

he means the 3 stage (40 stamina X3) will count as 1 ungeon

[Kirin]

I highly doubt each dungeon state will each count as a "dungeon" for the daily missions.

It's likely you''ll only receive 1 credit for completing a dungeon when the "Completion Rewards" are displayed.

[Corwen]

Confirming that it is a full clear of a dungeon to get credit for 1 completion and you can repeat the same dungeon 3x, so it would take 360 stam of doing the highest tier dailies if going that route to get all of the rewards each day. Seeing as there is 480 stam given out daily, theres no need to take any detours to run something else unless you burned a lot of stam.

[Kirin]

Confirming that it is a full clear of a dungeon to get credit for 1 completion and you can repeat the same dungeon 3x, so it would take 360 stam of doing the highest tier dailies if going that route to get all of the rewards each day. Seeing as there is 480 stam given out daily, theres no need to take any detours to run something else unless you burned a lot of stam.

So dailies do count?

[Alkar]

he means the 3 stage (40 stamina X3) will count as 1 ungeon

I know but where is the time being taken away from? You just spam the highest difficulty stage as usual and can easily get three clears a day.

[Ratatapa]

I know but where is the time being taken away from? You just spam the highest difficulty stage as usual and can easily get three clears a day.

I doubt dailies would count anyway

[JeanClaudVanDamme]

i just started this game and getting the hang of it.

i pretty much want to build a classic team of tank, dd, dd, buff, healer centered around paladin cecil. any particular characters that best suit this team? Which event should i save all my mithrils for?

[Alkar]

i just started this game and getting the hang of it.

i pretty much want to build a classic team of tank, dd, dd, buff, healer centered around paladin cecil. any particular characters that best suit this team? Which event should i save all my mithrils for?

Well any character that you've pulled relics for. There are a lot of characters to fit those roles but even the absolute best fall behind as soon as you pull a (good) relic for someone else. I'd suggest to save for any character/realm you like and go from there.
You really need some form of support in your team though, breaks/breakdowns are extremely important for higher difficulties.

[Kirin]

Some of the best advice for starting out is don't get set on "one ring to rule them all" type of team. Your setup will change, and often.

Early on, you can get away with it because picking a Roaming Warrior with a powerful Overflow Soul Break will handle most bosses. But as you creep into the mid game, you'll want at least 1 healer and 1 support (breakdowns, full break) constantly in your group.

With how easy it is to get mythril when starting out, definitely look at pulling on the Keeper's Choice vol.1 or 2 banners. Along with an 11 pull on these banners it lets you pick an extra relic for free from a set list.

Banner 1 is okay for starters, but the free relic here has a *lot* of good options. Anything with party haste (Leila, Red XIII) or a strong party heal (Vanille, Yuna) is an immense help. Leila's SB comes with party Shell as well, while Red and Vanille's comes with party protect.

Banner 2's banner items are a lot better than 1's. The Keeper's (Tyro) Sentinel Grimoire is an amazing defensive ability raising Def and Res by 200% (also known as Wall), Ramza's Platinum Sword has a party haste and 50% atk boost for physical teams. Vanille's SB on this banner heals more than the one on Banner 1, but also restores an ability use.

The free relic from banner 2 is a little weaker, but offers a great amount of utility. I would pick the Diamond Shield which would allow someone to cast party Protect without having a healer or mage have to do it, but also anything that lists an elemental damage boost (ex: small fire damage up) offers a 20% damage boost to that element.

[JeanClaudVanDamme]

thanks guys, but yeah, i knew about the relic = default best character you have. and i read the platinum sword/sentinel grimoire both have really low draw rate, so i dont really want to base my team composition around rng. was hoping for some solid characters with default soul break that compliments the team structure. but i guess it all comes down to relic.

gonna hoard mithril and wait for the next ff4 banner, then?

[Kirin]

It's not that its a low drop rate.

Banner rates are a little hard to explain, but generally OSB and BSB are 1%, SSB are 2%, Unique SB's and off-banner 5*'s are 1%. The 5* rate is ~14% overall, but the 11 pull guarantees at least 1x5* every pull, so math would say those other 10 chances produce at least 1 more 5*.

Not to get too deep into it, but when Platinum Sword first came out DeNa deliberately tampered with the rates. People found out through math, shitstorm ensued, and they havn't pulled that trick again. You have as good a chance on that Keeper's Choice banner as any, and those 2 relics specifically are game changing.

Like I said, you'll get flush with mythril fairly easily early on. Take advantage of that and see if you cant get something good from banner 2 to make starting out easier. If you remain skiddish, pull banner 1 once for the free Hastega relic (Shellga is a lot more useful than Protectga generally) and then wait for a banner and character you love.

[Moridam]

i'd honestly shy away from touching keeper's choice banner 1 even though the choice relics do have some utility. that's an old banner that came out before the guaranteed 5*, so it's still possible to go 0/11 on the actual relic draw.

[Alkar]

i'd honestly shy away from touching keeper's choice banner 1 even though the choice relics do have some utility. that's an old banner that came out before the guaranteed 5*, so it's still possible to go 0/11 on the actual relic draw.

Yep, this. Any current banner is way better than Keeper's Choice #1 (and #2 imo) even with the selectable relic afterwards. Utility on banner #2 is not even worth considering as a beginner as you don't have a huge selection of relics (and honed abilities) to fully utilize those items.
A great upcoming banner is FFVII next month but there's no healing items in there so you may want to look elsewhere as well. FF4 is a good choice imo because it's a rare realm (so you won't get many chances to pull their stuff) and those characters are generally great with good relic options. Don't forget to always pull on the Lucky Draws (half priced 11 pulls with a selection of relics from different realms) each month. There's one next week with relics from FFX,FFV and FFT.

[kuronosan]

As far as I remember, KC3 has SG on it still, and with Shout being in the next 5 lucky draws there isn't a reason to touch KC2 unless you are desperate for any relics.

Don't even touch KC1.

[Alkar]

As far as I remember, KC3 has SG on it still, and with Shout being in the next 5 lucky draws there isn't a reason to touch KC2 unless you are desperate for any relics.

Don't even touch KC1.

Yeah but KC3 is apparently lost alongside bard motes and missing RDs, it's way late at this point.

[hyoton]

thanks guys, but yeah, i knew about the relic = default best character you have. and i read the platinum sword/sentinel grimoire both have really low draw rate, so i dont really want to base my team composition around rng.

Except for the uncommon banners with selectable bonus picks you'll have to deal with RNG. But if you want to use specific characters or teams types at high levels of difficulty you need to enable them with good support (ie even if you don't have a relic for pecil you can bring him but everyone else is going to be carrying his weight.).

[Ratatapa]

Except for the uncommon banners with selectable bonus picks you'll have to deal with RNG. But if you want to use specific characters or teams types at high levels of difficulty you need to enable them with good support (ie even if you don't have a relic for pecil you can bring him but everyone else is going to be carrying his weight.).

3-4 months

[Kirin]

I'm not saying he should whale on Keepers banners, I'm saying banner 1 is worth one pull to nab a functional Hastega and Banner 2 isnt all suck.

You can get like 300 mythril in the first week playing the game. Yeah it dries up, but if hes just starting now dropping 100 to get a good head start is well worth it IMHO.

[JeanClaudVanDamme]

i think i'll hoard mithrils for now until a good banner shows up for characters i like.

doesnt make sense for me to pull right now since im still @ the stage in the game in which my level 50 tyro and cloud are one shotting everything, and every single bosses, even the level 80 difficulty ones are getting one-shotted by Thunder God RW.

game is piss easy right now lol.