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    And EPA agents infringe upon paranormal investigations.

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    Healthcare bill will lose $80M in Public Funding for MN which means the primary funding for childhood immunization programs, lead poisoning prevention and infectious disease monitoring will be gone
    http://www.startribune.com/state-cou...cha/415992734/

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    Fear of Medicaid cuts have already stopped me from getting a raise next year. Whoops


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    CBO is out. Lots of interesting reading. Deficit friendly (337 billion by 2026) but 52 million uninsured by 2026 (28m under Ocare). Premiums expected to be 10% lower by then despite rising every year until 2020.

    https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...lthcareact.pdf

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    I would've been shocked if it wasn't going to reduce the projected deficit as it stands now since they'd be removing the medicaid expansion.

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    should note that many of the 14 million newly uninsured for 2018 will be those that had only purchased insurance to avoid the penalty. Unfortunately they gonna remain uninsured when they get sick but don't want to get hit with that 30% premium increase LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    should note that many of the 14 million newly uninsured for 2018 will be those that had only purchased insurance to avoid the penalty. Unfortunately they gonna remain uninsured when they get sick but don't want to get hit with that 30% premium increase LOL
    24M by 2026, but the deficit would be reduced by $337B.

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    Is giving Medicaid the ability to negotiate drug prices not something that's able to be put into a budget reconciliation bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    24M by 2026, but the deficit would be reduced by $337B.
    Covered in my previous post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    Covered in my previous post!
    I only saw the 14m post!

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    By 2026, average premiums for single policyholders in the nongroup market
    under the legislation would be roughly 10 percent lower than under current law
    Of course, this isn't apples-to-apples, given that a part of the decrease is because of
    the elimination of the requirement for insurers to offer plans
    covering certain percentages of the cost of covered benefits
    Basically right now the lowest plans have to cover an estimated 60% of group health costs (Bronze plans). With that going away, there will be plans offered that cover maybe 30 or 40% at the low end (that healthy people will buy) driving down the average premium but not providing nearly the same amount of insurance.

    And, of course, with the premium changes hurting older people and helping younger people, kicking expensive older people out of the market because it's unaffordable is going to both help the risk pool and push high-premium-paying people out while keeping low-premium-paying people in, skewing the overall premium.

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    A reduction of $880 billion in federal outlays for Medicaid
    goddamn that's a big number

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    And, of course, with the premium changes hurting older people and helping younger people, kicking expensive older people out of the market because it's unaffordable is going to both help the risk pool and push high-premium-paying people out while keeping low-premium-paying people in, skewing the overall premium.
    But these people still have "access" to health insurance, so it's all good. The fact that they will be insured for less is a minor detail that's not worth paying any attention to. /s

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    This is fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    goddamn that's a big number
    >Reduce Medicaid spending by $880b
    >Most of that goes to tax breaks for the wealthy

    I'm convinced that Republicans in Congress and Trump are so hellbent on giving money to the rich that they'll ram this through, no matter how badly it could screw them politically, although maybe the Senate would be a tougher sell if even Tom Fucking Cotton is sounding the alarm against this.

    Also, that CBO score is hilarious -- yes, premiums will go down for healthy younger people, but the elderly are going to get massively fucked when the individual mandate doesn't hold down their rates. If this passed, it would either be apocalyptic for the GOP or we'd see just how bad the cognitive dissonance is with Trump voters.

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    CBO also didn't release the "dynamic" numbers with this yet. They only did the static. The dynamic numbers would actually show how much it would cost the nation overall after having to cover uninsured cost of sickness etc.

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    The thing is, if they wanted to replace the individual mandate with a 30% surcharge for lacking continuous coverage (for FREEDOM!) they could.

    If they wanted to change from income/cost based subsidies to age-based (to eliminate onerous WORK DISCINCENTIVES) they could.

    But what they care about is slashing taxes, and they can't do that without offsets, so they have to destroy medicaid.

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    Dems introduce bill condemning 'fake news' and 'alternative facts'

    A group of House Democrats is turning to legislation to call out President Trump and his White House for their history of false statements and disregarding the truth.

    Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D-N.Y.) introduced a resolution that calls for “opposing fake news and alternative facts.” Democratic Reps. Ted Lieu (Calif.) and John Lewis (Ga.) signed on as co-sponsors.

    If adopted, the resolution would put the House on record as stating, “the United States should continue being a democracy, not an autocracy.”

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    I enjoy Ted Lieu's twitter feed.

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    Why does Steve King have a confederate flag on his desk?

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