115th United States Congress

[tyven]

Well I mean that's 3% more abortions than Red Lobster or Adidas do so yea

[Niiro]

3% of their activities is a lot I guess

3% may not sound like much but wait until it's your living, breathing baby being torn from your arms and served on a platter for the globalists to use in their spirit cooking.

[archibaldcrane]

It's weird that they are laser-targeting Planned Parenthood, while allowing other abortion clinics to receive medicaid payments for non-abortion services. The clause only affects organizations that provide abortions that received at least 350M in medicaid payments in 2014 (so, only Planned Parenthood).

[Ksandra]

It's weird that they are laser-targeting Planned Parenthood, while allowing other abortion clinics to receive medicaid payments for non-abortion services. The clause only affects organizations that provide abortions that received at least 350M in medicaid payments in 2014 (so, only Planned Parenthood).

Nah not so weird. Just politics as usual. Their constituents consider PP to be the representation of what's wrong with abortions in america, and will use it as a a symbol for their fight against it.

[Zealot]

Finding a target and hammering home how much all your constituents should hate it and how brave you are for dealing with it is as old as the Romans.

[Dantrag]

Allowing maximum limits on insurance is absolutely fucking nuts.

If any woman votes yes on this they honestly are completely fucked in the head.

[Tyrath]

I posted this in the wrong thread. Damn you Zealot for being last post in both.

[kuronosan]

Allowing maximum limits on insurance is absolutely fucking nuts.

If any woman votes yes on this they honestly are completely fucked in the head.

People that vote for this aren't thinking about how it affects anyone.

[Aerin]

All they need to know is that the worst Republican person or proposal is still a million times better than the best Democratic person or proposal.

[Dantrag]

For what we pay in premiums couldn't we afford single payer at this point?

[Aerin]

Nope, while insurance is expensive, medical bills for anything other than a cold (actually even a cold) are through the roof. Costs over $200 just to have a doctor tell you you have the flu and prescribe you nothing but sleep. And then there's bills like this.

Edit: Well, I shouldn't say no. It of course depends on how it's implemented.

[Byrthnoth]

It's mainly that people go to the doctor more often when you give them healthcare.

Prevention is cheaper than catastrophic treatment, but death is free.

Also, not every crippling and treatable problem can turn catastrophic. How many people are ballsy enough to show up at the ER without insurance and demand knee surgery?

[archibaldcrane]

For what we pay in premiums couldn't we afford single payer at this point?

Nope, while insurance is expensive, medical bills for anything other than a cold (actually even a cold) are through the roof. Costs over $200 just to have a doctor tell you you have the flu and prescribe you nothing but sleep. And then there's bills like this.

Edit: Well, I shouldn't say no. It of course depends on how it's implemented.

The point of single payer (which seems to continually get lost) is for the government to significantly reduce all costs of medical care by setting rates for treatment/drugs/devices that are lower, or much lower, than are currently paid.

The words "single payer" don't even necessarily mean universal coverage (and you can get the cost savings and universal coverage through "all payer rate setting" without single payer as well).

We currently pay double, or more, per person in medical spending than most countries with universal coverage do - so yes, our current total national spending is way more than enough to cover everyone.

You could even implement "all-payer rate setting" federally and do nothing else and it would solve the bulk of the problems with our medical system - just by having the government dictate much lower prices for everything.

[Byrthnoth]

The other point that gets lost is that the only reason the current system is cheaper than providing healthcare for everyone is that people die before they can receive catastrophic care or live with fixable problems because they can't afford to fix them in the current system.

[archibaldcrane]

Supposedly McConnell has told Senators that he's pushing the vote until after the recess

but of course I wouldn't put anything past that motherfucker

[tyven]

health vote pushed to after 4th of July recess

[tyven]

Supposedly McConnell has told Senators that he's pushing the vote until after the recess

but of course I wouldn't put anything past that motherfucker

WELL LOOK AT YOU

[Zealot]

Delays can't be anything but bad for them I would imagine.

[archibaldcrane]

Delays can't be anything but bad for them I would imagine.

Hard to see this helping.

Hilarious that McConnell is being hamstrung by dumbasses like Paul, this type of thing was only supposed to happen in the House.

[archibaldcrane]

However, they do have over 300B in deficit reduction in this bill that they could tap into to make the bill more "generous" without keeping tax cuts.